80 percent of all Chinese wonder weapons will probably still be “in development” this time next year.

PAF vs. IAF threads will still be a waste of time to read.

A few years ago no programs. Now a lot of programs and you think they are just painting models? I remember the cold war where the US thought it had the best planes. Phantom lover, there are more nations capable of building decent planes. India and China are developing faster then you can imagine. Well, you might start adoring another plane cause the Phantom is antique.

PAF v IAF is less flamy now. But it showed the commitment of both groups. We will see more and more from both nations.

Pakdef:
-22 Frigate will modified these system (IDEAS-2004 Exibition report)

THALES naval group will provide its two or three radar system for F-22 frigates
1) SMART-S MK-2: Medium to longe range 3D surveillance radar
maximum ranger 250 km/ minimum 150 meters, tracking 3D capacity ait+surface 500 targets, detection accuracyfor small missile`50km, MPA `200km, E/Fband frequency band,it is capablefor surface surveillance, surface gun fire support, jammer surveillance , IFF interrogation support, detection ECCM techniques,
2)SCOUT MK2: I BAND radar( http://www.thales-naval.nl).
German company Atlas elekktronik(a BAE SYSTEM company) offer its ASO-94 hull mounted sonar system for PN F-22 frigates, ASO-94 is medium frequency sonar system,its designed for the surveillance of the underwater environment for detection, localisation, classification and tracking of targets. choice of defferent operational modes and parameter settings allow for optimal detection of targets in littoral (shallow) and deep water.the sonar efficiently can be use for the classical ASW tasks the ASO94 sonar is capable to detect: Submarine, Midget, mini submarines,AUVs and UUVs ,Torpedoes, Moored mines and underwater obstacles, surface vessels, speed boats etc.( see: http://www.atlas.de)
German company atlas elektronik will supply its new state of the art fiber optic wire guided SEAHAKE MOD-4 torpedo, it is passive and combine passive/active operating multi-frequency torpedo, high speed fully digitally,and i can’t belive its rang up to 50km, yes its true,its hase 3 batteries, torpedo lenght 6600mm, this torpedo offer to pakistan navy’s AGOSTA90B submarines, MBD.A’s display SEASPIDER torpedo, it is a anti torpedo.
MBD.A missile system display its ASPIDE2000 sam system ,pakistan intrest in this missil system for its land based defence, ASPIDE/SPADA2000 semi active missil with a range in excess of 20 km ,its capable to defeat aircradft and PGM weapons.
MBD.A missile system also dispaly its ERYX man-portable anti tank multirole fire support weapon against all ground targets, 95% hit result, direct attack, wire guided, tendem warhead, 50 to 600 meters range,13 kg weight, this missile offer too.
MBD.A display its Exocet missile family AM-39, SM39 and MM-40 BLOCK-3, pakistan will get chinese F-22 frigates this company intrest showing to puchase MM-40 block3 long rang anti ship missile to PN,
MM40 block2 is 3rd generation 70 km range missile but block 3 is 4th generation 180km range, high subsonic speed, dvance seeker / GPS/ leser gyro nevigation guidence, this missile available in 2007

US is getting extra room to the east and directly sell products to make them NATO adoptable. Which nation is not forced to buy second hand US fighters?

from jang.com.pk

France offers UAVs to Pakistan

By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir

ISLAMABAD: A French company recently offered its Sperwer UAV system to Pakistan. The Sperwer UAVs or spy-planes are being used in Afghanistan by the International Security Assistance Force. However, the deal is plagued by glitches. Sources told The News that primarily used by the Canadian armed forces in Afghanistan, the remote-controlled Canadian aircraft recently came in for a hard emergency landing, making it the fourth plane in four months to be knocked out of Canada’s troubled spy plane fleet. The Canadian forces Sperwer UAV made the emergency landing near Kabul about 15 minutes after taking off from Camp Julien. The sources said that since the first UAVs arrived in Afghanistan in Nov 2003, crashes have put four of the Sperwer UAVs out of action, while two others developed cracks in their wings. At one point the programme ran out of usable planes.

1. june 05 two seat Fc1 being assembled and september 05 two seater flying.
2. June 05 both pflying prototypes avionics test finished. Starting AAM tests.
2. aug 05 J10b being tested for PAF. First order of 28 with French avionics but Chinese radar and SD10.
4. dec 05 PAF getting last Hercules (c140E 6#), K8 (12), P3c, maybe 12 second hand F16’s but with MLU. And a lot of choppers for PA (Bell).
5. Paf signing Erieye but not Gripen.
6. dec 05. Kamra JF17 production may be starting up.

old intresting pic.

China to continue defence relations with Pakistan’

BEIJING: China will continue developing defence relations with Pakistan and other friendly countries, particularly in non-traditional fields, stated a white paper issued by the Chinese government on Thursday.

The 85-page paper, the fifth of its kind since 1995, gave a detail review of China’s defence cooperation with foreign countries.

Relations between China and Pakistan had strengthened over the past few years and met their security requirements. China’s military carried out anti-terrorism exercise with the Pakistan Army in 2004, which helped strengthen cooperation between both armies and improve their capacity to combat terrorism.

The Chinese government gave importance to security cooperation in the non-traditional security fields with friendly countries, the paper said, adding, “It is imperative to work together and address both the symptoms and root causes and to adopt comprehensive measures.”

According to Chinese officials, the document reassured the world of China’s pursuit of peaceful development that would pose “no obstacle or threat to any one”.

Observing that “peace and development remain the dominating themes of the times”, the white paper said, “Factors of uncertainty, instability and insecurity are on the increase in the global security situation.” “The separatist activities of forces wanting Taiwanese independence have increasingly become the biggest immediate threat to China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity as well as peace and stability on both sides of the Taiwan Straits and the Asia-Pacific region as a whole,” the white paper said. app