Will the innocent one throw the stone… Veggieboy… No country is correct. Not even your oldest democracy on earth. Your reaction shows only copy paste work and no intellegence at all…

Just keep defending it cause your nation buys a lot of arms from Israel… Good…

Not recognizing Israel was not wise. But it should not defend Israeli occupation at this moment.

They were not freed by the west… C’mon… They were used and exploited… Don’t come up with that excuse. The Japanese were the first to see that not only western nation could win a fight. Western nation were allways conquering and exploiting… Just look at the Netherlands… Started exploiting Indonesia and intruduced slave markets in the world… Such a small country but they did it not for helping these nations. Just like the Brits (commonwealth), Italy, Spain, Portugal etc etc…

There is a reason that all non western societies are not offensive. They are relaxed and not capitalistic. Do not forget that the weapons are allways frontrunning the technology. No wonder they are not the frontunners in techworld… But I hope you ar enot only a materialistic and unrelaxed person… We are here to look beyond that. Exploiting the earth is not the way… Wow… This could be a Greenpeace commercial…

But grow up… The only reason one is willing to take risk is profit…

Cheers.

If Pakistan delivered it then why not everything? Let us also not forget that mr USA nuke of the manhattan project was fried on the electric chair for givinf the nukes to Russia… That electric chair was also for his wife… So talking about bad examples… And who has used the nukes sofar? Only one nation. And which nation has the most destroying capablities in the world… Same. So let us not make little things huge…

Originally posted by Vaiar
PLA happily forgets how nicely his own government treats minorities that seek their own nations.

I am not bounded to any government. And there is no land that treats minorities like it should. The fact that we all like democracy is fine. It is better then dictatorship. But in reality it is forcing the will of majority over the minority… And even if most people vote for peace and not war how come that leaders like Aznavar or Berlusconi love to go to war? Isn’t the will of the voters less important then the economy or power lust? The Berlusconi of Italy is changing laws to get majority stakes for his companies. And how come that democracy is equal to getting false votes in some states like W Bush did? And the oldest democracy on earth India could not stop Muslim getting slaughtered in Gujarat or Hindus getting burned in trains up in the north?

There is no good example. Do you remember that Indians in the USA and aboriginals ni Australie were treated correct? I don’t. They are killed, there habitat is stolen and destroyed and they had to adapt… Excuse me they were forced to adapt… Long live democracy… Vaijar you are probing whether I like Pakistani government? It is not better then the Indian. One side you have nationalistic hindu party and the other hand a general… Both are examples of bad democracy. They should stop making ordinary oeple victims of their hatred or lust for power. I hope they will come closer.

Peace.

It is not strange that 50% of the US are seing Israel as the threat in the ME. The US propaganda machine is fully busy with changing that but I doubt that it can explain why Israel can throw away Palestinians, kill them regulary, make concentration camps, destroy houses, steal their land, use US arms to kill so called terrorist, have chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and the arabs are still the bad guy.

Even top army officers had enough. F16 aces, special forces are signing that they had enough… And do not forget that the so called democraticly elected Sharon murdered two villages… He is more acceptable then Arafat? Just look how much the fundamentalistic jews are spreading hatred. How would one react if the arabs did that to Israel…?

Just try to understand that if one is blowing himself up… The reason is probably that that person is so much humiliated that he is not fared to end his life. If you look at the pictures how fundametalistic jews use water and the Palestinians have to beg for it then it is no wonder… The use of islam has nothing to do with it. It is the situation they are forced in. Blowing up is bad… But what can one expect from decades of concetration camps. If the Israeli government can use the Hitler regime for gettnig attention then why is everybody sponsering their occupation and eradication of the Palestinians?

Is Iran threatening Israel? I doubt that… It is just the fear that it might get something that could reach Israel… As if they are able to do something with medium tech missiles…

F16c/d, Emraer AWACS, Mirage2k and Ef2000? Wow, are spotters still being arrested… Love to make some pics over there…

Originally posted by Victor
There, there, no need to have penis envy. One day, I’m sure you will grow one yourself. Just wait for it…

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K8 jet trainer is a winner

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Please… Here the egyptian version…