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Originally posted by Indian1973
the report is laughably riddled with errors. I would wait for something more accurate — even the pakdef sources ought to
be able to get the real deal in a few days.
I totally agree on that. Journalist don’t have any idea what they are talking about. Boms based on R darter infra red? Please. Reminds me about one report that Pakistan has the state of the art against radars… Itt was about chaff… What can we say.
Cheers.
Sorry about that mate. Won’t do that again. But just like Pakistani are advertising about Gripen, F16 and AWACS the Indians have probably even longer list. Making the Gripen naval is a task that is not far from developing a total new plane. I surely like the plane but do not see the option for India in turning it into their newest naval plane. The Gorshkov deal was there if the Indians would buy the migs… And the retrofit of the carrier.
anyway, we get so many speculation about Indian or Pakistani deals that we can start to talk about every weapon in connection with these two countries. But Gripen as carrier fighter? No wonder Janes speculates more and more. It was more reliable in the past.:D
The French are known for their double dealing. The advantage for them is higher price and more offset. The French are the last party that can provide total systems cause most companies in Europe are either connected to US or UK. That means that they are a politcial instrument. The french are only intrested in cash. At time that Pakistan was boycotted only the mirages flew… The thing that PAF remembered was that even the plastic fuel tanks were more expensive then their price in goldweight. That is one of the problems why PAF is not desperate to go for Mirage 2000-5. India is more open to that. Whe else would they fly so many nice planes? Good for India and us plane enthousiats.
But do end making India better in everything and Pakistan bad in everything. The truth is allways in between. Both nations are not far from eachother. India has more cash and ends up with luxarious weapons while the Pakistani has to wait for better times. Since better weapons get more expensive it means that they just think a bit more before ending up with high tech planes that have no spare parts. And the Pakistani have awful lot to improve. They just started with the Navy getting better subs. Then they will get ships. They are developing tanks now and hopeful will have a new plane. If not then they just have to do it with the fc1 or j10 which are not that bad either. Maybe not the most state of the art but both nations do not have the high tech team like US demonstrated a few times.
Making an Air defence fighter as a deck fighter? Are you sure or just for fun acig member SOC? Hard deck landing is just one thing a deck fighter must do. There are many other factors. And together it makes them expensiver then normal versions. Normallly a deckfighter becomes a normal plane but the other way around? Can you give me an example or are you just sugering India…?
Originally posted by SOC
Anyone else find it amusing that Pakistan, Muslims that they are, would end up with a BVR weapon designed partly in Israel? I wonder what kind of sales guidelines Kentron and Rafael agreed to when they sat down to collaborate on the V4/Derby.
Seldom someone being so constructive about judging a country he doesn’t know… Come on Soccy. India is good in everything and Pakistan not. Sure. Why are Pakistani subs with TOT from France? And do you actually think that Pakistan has no cash for defence? Think better.
What a bad quality newspaper. Infrared with strange ranges. These guys don’t even know their own name probably. I hate that. Did I ever mention bad quality press in both India and Pakistan? This it the Pakistani pudding then.
About SD10 and this… It has to do with not putting all your eggs in one missile… So R-darter and SD10. One produced in PAkistan and one bought from China. Do remember that both missiles are not the same class.
For those that have no idea what F22 means.. It is a type of Fregat (marine ship). It is being built for Pakistan by China.
Cheers!
Can we move to aviation talk? Thanks.
Yep it is a nice picture. But I don’t think it will become reality cause those PAF F16’s are antique by the time the MKI flies over Pakistan:D
And you dic k is exremely small… Just judging your reaction. What is so superior and fully Indian? Nothing. Same for your so much praised neighbour.
Calling eachother a village idiot is just fun for the third party. Can we skip the “my dic K is bigger then yours” and move on to reality? Both antions have the bad habbit to do a lot of pr without actually signing. I am not that wise to tell who is the worst.
Both nations have reached medium quality production and will enter the higher end products in next decade or so. Is it a disgrace to buy parts and try to make own prototype? I don’t think so. It is something these nations should compare with many western nations where self production is gone… Even with low cash they have done some major steps. With or without help. How many nations have assembled aircraft? Not much. But do not forget that the ordinary Pakistani and Indians have to pay for that. Less money for them cause these things cost awful lot of money. To bad some here only can use that for throwing dirty things to eachother. What a shame. Not even the guts to talk about aviation as a intresting topic. What have you learn from others? You are just a toy. Bought when needed and thrown away if not…
Well… International court in the Hague is the answer to these kind of persons. But one has to admit that living like a dog must be humuliating for a dictator that killed many for fun.
Wolverine as village idiot? No he is not that wise…:D Just another empty flaming post of him… As usaul.
You realy think I am going to read your reaction? Never knew that a braindead person could actually do that… Please do not react cause it is just for flaming and removing another Pakistani topic. :rolleyes:
Magical boy,
I don’t go for copying bad stories from questionable leading newspapers on both sides. But is is strange to see so much free press in a country you call dictatorship. Just open you eyes and live beyond propaganda.
You must be double minded… One time my mind is sick and the other time I am an angel. I do not care what you call me. Just stick to aviation topics and not deaf and blind copy paste of the nationalistic feelings. I don’t think that the message is very difficult to understand. Even for you.;)
grow up or return to BR.
Cheers.