PLA>>>RAF plane’s wreckage was scattered over a large area
That doesn’t sound very good. Sound like the plane exploded at reasonable height. SAM?
PLAsame K8 in Egypt.
PLA大陸仿製蘇32殲擊機
2005 年 01 月 30 日
【 本 報 綜 合 報 道 】最 新 一 期 漢 和 防 務 評 論 報 道 ， 中 國 大 陸 已 經 開 始 研 製 新 一 代 轟 炸 機 ， 外 形 酷 似 蘇 製 蘇 32 雙 座 殲 擊 轟 炸 機 ， 航 程 可 達 七 千 公 里 。
漢 和 防 務 評 論 指 出 ， 從 中 航 第 一 集 團 的 錄 影 帶 分 析 ， 一 種 酷 似 俄 羅 斯 蘇 32 並 列 雙 座 殲 擊 轟 炸 機 的 模 型 開 始 被 用 於 結 構 試 驗 。 報 道 稱 ， 中 國 一 直 對 蘇 型 轟 炸 機 有 濃 厚 興 趣 ； 不 排 除 中 國 在 吸 收 、 消 化 蘇 32 的 技 術 基 礎 上 ， 自 己 獨 立 研 製 中 國 版 蘇 32 殲 擊 轟 炸 機 的 可 能 性 。 同 時 ， 俄 軍 為 分 擔 製 造 成 本 ， 也 可 能 會 出 口 蘇 32 。
航 程 七 千 公 里 裝 多 功 能 雷 達
漢 和 指 出 ， 傳 聞 中 國 正 在 研 製 JH7 和 H6 之 後 的 殲 擊 轟 炸 機 和 遠 端 轟 炸 機 。 在 獲 得 WS9 、 AL31F 大 推 力 渦 輪 風 扇 發 動 機 後 ， 研 製 蘇 32 的 可 能 性 就 更 大 了 。
據 稱 ， 蘇 32 駕 駛 艙 可 以 同 時 站 立 兩 人 ， 具 備 了 戰 略 轟 炸 的 能 力 。 蘇 32 經 過 一 次 空 中 加 油 的 航 程 達 到 七 千 公 里 ， 安 裝 有 後 視 雷 達 和 多 功 能 相 控 陣 雷 達 ， 幾 乎 可 以 攜 帶 所 有 俄 式 空 對 空 、 空 對 地 導 彈 和 制 導 炸 彈 。
另 外 ， 《 華 盛 頓 時 報 》 廿 八 日 報 道 ， 指 中 國 的 洲 際 導 彈 對 美 國 的 威 脅 正 持 續 增 長 。 報 章 中 的 「 五 角 圈 內 」 專 欄 指 ， 美 國 國 家 空 中 和 太 空 情 報 中 心 一 份 關 於 彈 道 巡 航 導 彈 對 美 國 威 脅 的 報 告 指 出 ， 中 國 正 加 強 其 長 程 導 彈 武 力 ， 發 展 兩 款 新 型 洲 際 導 彈 （ ICBM ） ， 其 中 東 風 三 十 一 型 射 程 達 七 千 二 百 公 里 ， 東 風 三 十 一 型 A 則 可 達 一 萬 一 千 兩 百 公 里 。 中 國 用 來 威 脅 美 國 洲 際 導 彈 彈 頭 ， 預 料 未 來 十 五 年 內 會 增 到 七 十 五 至 一 百 枚 。
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China develops its own version of the Su-32 fighter-bomber
2005/01/30
According to the January issue of Kanwa Defense Review, China has already started the development of a new generation of fighter-bomber aircraft. The shape is very similar with the Russian made Sukhoi-32 two seats fighter bomber and its range may reach 7,000 kilometers.
Kanwa Defense Review pointed out that after analysing a video footage from China Aerospace Industries First Group Company, one prototype used as a model for structural testing shared similarities with the Russian Su-32 two seats fighter-bomber aircraft. The report stated that, China always had a strong interest for the Shukhoi aircraft. It is not ruled out that China might absorb the russian technology of the Su-32 and then use it as a base for an independently developped chinese version Su-32. At the same time, the Russian Air Force could consider exporting the Su-32 to China as a way to share its production cost.
A 7,000 kilometers range with Multi-functions Advanced Radar
Kanwa reported rumors about China developing JH7 and H6 ground attack bomber aircrafts and Long range bomber aircrafts as well. After obtaining WS9 and AL31F more powerful vector thrusting turbo-fan engines, the possibility to develop the Su-32 will be higher.
The Su-32 cockpit can simultaneously seat two airmen, and will provide a strategic air bombing capability. The Su-32 will require a mid air refueling in order to reach a 7,000 kilometers range. This aircraft is equiped with a back sight radar and a multi-function array radar. Nearly all the current types of Russian made ordnances can be used, including air-to-air missiles, air-to-ground missiles and guided bombs.
Moreover, the January 28 edition of “The Washington Times” reported that Chinese intercontinental missiles continue to pose an ever increasing threat for the US.
One source said that China is strengthening its IRBM forces, developing two new versions of intercontinental missiles (ICBM) with a range of 7,200 kilometers for the Dong Feng 31 and 11,200 kilometers for the Dong Feng 31-A. China nuclear deterrents against the US could increase to 75 to 100 ICBM within 15 years.
PLAOk, that sounds fair. But now I would like to understand how the Iranian can keep up the Ah1, F5, F14, F4… After so many decades boycot… Indirect input?
PLANitin, without getting it theoretical. Every journalist can turn things upside down. We rather stay at technical output. In that DRDO and HAL do things we all enjoy. So don’t get intimidated by bad journalism cause there are not many that have time to get into dtails like we all do here. I posted some strange articles and the ersult was that I was punished for bad journalism of others. Let us move on and enjoy the products.
PLAKnowing the facts that India-Pakistan topics here are ending flamy and often people that post “irrelevant” topics outside or inside Indian topics are mistreated I hoped that you as an Indian would understand that trying to post another Pakistani topic isn’t exactly appreciated. We do not post Kashmir etc. You should restrain from other things.
PLAIt will mean end of the A5 in PLAAF.
PLABis-ON are upgraded IAF mig21’s.
PLAI agree that there are Ft6 (Fantan trainer), Ft7P/PG (F7 trainer), Mirage doubleseaters (Mirage trainers) amd F16B (F16 trainers) but if the gap was huge then there would be a lot of accidents.
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PLASofar I have little inside info. The planes and choppers were tested till they fell apart. There was not much left when they were put in the museum. Left aside the examples that went to USA.
PLASomehow the decision makers take tested designs. If you look at JSF or F22. Even if the newer designs have advantages the standard looking plane was accepted. Even in space exploration the Space shi pone was much cheaper and advanced then those huge big ugly standard Space Shuttle. If it was up to the government then the cheaper version was in the bin before we could have seen the design.
PLAAnd Israel?
PLAnew from CMF
Chinese and Chengdu: 4th FC1 will equip the KLJ10 fire control radar which China will produce. Simultaneously 4th FC1 has carried on the adjustment once again in the structure. FC1 displays which at pig sea 航展 is the 4th FC1 model in fact which the anus anus makes, carefully analyzes the discovery, in main plane, the tail wing and the chicken body union department installs the material 4 statures to install nearby the structure the strip, uses in to control the turbulent flow, simultaneously the air inlet interior space has enlarges. Through to such improvement, the FC1 maneuverability has obtained the enormous enhancement, because FC1 still uses the longitudinal two faxes to fly controls the system, crosswise use tradition mechanically controlled way. Simultaneously will start the chicken because of to let in air the current capacity insufficiency but sometimes to produce braves the smoke the phenomenon to be able to vanish. But China truly was worrying Pakistan possibly purchases F16 to reduce FC1 the purchase quantity. Competes the fire control radar work also in Russian PHAZOTRON and GALIEO AVIONICA (Italy? ) Between enters a cloth superheating, at present enters the stage which respectively reduces prices. The PHAZOTRON poisonous family tells the Chinese and said the KAPYO-F phased-array radar bids the FC1 quoted price 1.2 million beautiful knives, but Italy bids the FC1 radar by 1.6 million beautiful knives, certainly this view obtains GALIEO AVIONICA by no means the confirmation. Moreover the Chinese and thought these two quoted prices excessively are all low, truly finalized a deal the price obviously to be able far to be higher than this numeral.
PLAhttp://www.expatica.com/source/site…n+security+ties
Pakistan, Germany deepen security ties
28 January 2005
ISLAMABAD – Senior German and Pakistani defence officials have identified four areas to promote cooperation in defence, security and counter-terrorism.
“The areas identified by the two countries in their inaugural round of politico-military dialogue will lead to expanding mutually beneficial cooperation in security and defence,” German Deputy Assistant Chief of Armed Forces for Politico-Military Affairs and Arms Control Brigadier General Jürgen Bornemann told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa before leaving for Germany.
Germany has become the fourth country after the United States, Japan and Russia to begin a
politico-military (strategic) dialogue with Pakistan.
Regular politico-military dialogue with Pakistan army officials on security and military issues, meetings of experts from both the countries on issues of mutual interest including counter terrorism, training of Pakistani officers in Germany and delivery of border surveillance equipment, were the four areas identified by the two countries for future cooperation.
Brigadier General Bornemann met Chairman of the Senate Standing Committee of Defence Nisar A. Memon as well as senior officials in the Joint Staff Headquarters and defence ministry during the visit.
“The two countries will hold at least one meeting a year to review the state of cooperation and to discuss security issues pertaining to South Asia in the light of Pakistan’s assessment of the geo-political situation,” said the German general.
Bornemann is the second senior German military official to visit Pakistan, after Vice Chief of Defence Staff Lt. General Hans Heinrich Dieter.
Dieter, who visited Pakistan last December, discussed the possibility of an increased interaction between armed forces of the two countries as well as holding of joint military exercises.
“No doubt Pakistan is playing an increasingly important role in matters like security and war against terrorism, which necessitates a close liaison with this country,” Bornemann said.
He said Germany is also interested in how Pakistan’s relations are developing with China, India and Afghanistan.
The general did not mince words while lauding Pakistan’s role as an important source of stability in neighbouring Afghanistan and the war against terrorism.
A 2,000-strong German force is part of the International Security and Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.
“We have a mutual understanding that political and strategic stability is not of regional but international importance and that is why we are interested in promoting the strategic dialogue with Pakistan,” Bornemann said.
He stressed that political security has “become as global as finance and economy, and that is why it is very important to regularly exchange notes and views with friendly countries”.
He said as part of the defence cooperation, Germany will offer more training opportunities to Pakistani military officials in addition to looking into Islamabad’s request for the supply of surveillance equipment, particularly for the monitoring of country’s borders with Afghanistan.
“We will see how we could help Pakistan in this regard,” said the general.
Some 250 Pakistani officers received military training and education trained in Germany in recent years as part of military education and training programmes.
Asked if Germany would consider any request by Pakistan for the delivery of military equipment, he said, “we expect that the Pakistani defence officials through their embassy in Berlin will inform us of any specific needs”.
“We will then see whether these things are available and if they can be exported to Pakistan.” he added
He said Germany is very careful in issues like export of defence systems, which are usually decided by a special cabinet committee
“It is quite possible that some of those assets decommissioned by the German Bundeswehr could be given to Pakistan but it is basically a political decision to be taken by the government”.
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