So it is possible that the LGB’s (old pic with PG and LGB) of Pakistani PG are lighted by the same PG. Do we still remember the big deal made by some poster that it was not possible? Well, I am happy that some evidence is shown now.
Good plane in US hands. Without the support (fighters, jstars, awacs, ifr tankers) I don’t think it is that effective.
knowing the price of parts from France I doubt they will go for 125 Rafales. It is mig29. They will not add another sophisticated and demanding plane in the inventory. Otherwise they will move from backbone mig21 to high tech planes very fast. But not that we ould mind that. Lovely pics are always nice.

The new pic with SD10 shows same eagle camouflage but with two airtuves less on the nose. Strangely the same plane was a few weeks agi on a pic with still those 4 tubes.
Who will buy so many dis-assembled planes? Or is spare parts selling just hiding direct sale to unspecified country?
If that extra is the major design problem then there is not much problem.
I added those lines. The pic is real. I have the same with testing of the fueltanks etc. So it is real.
I know Jai. But extremely looking forward to see LCA. So now it will be waiting for the show. I had hoped more pictures would be released of the Indian produced MKI. I hope to start a plastic model (1/48) in a few weeks.
IMHO I think that China has been absorbing almost anything from Russia. There are rumours that a lot of Russian scientist work in China. With China gradually improving former Russian design we can say that China is moving on. Next step is Europe.
Very nice. But not much groundclearance. And will the seeker not get dirty in bad weather runway?
banking left. And wingfences were removed long time ago. But how is it possible that ni the latest pic the cockpit interior is not black but white?
Here the evidence of wingfences removed.
well i think that was the idea behind choosing a chinese radar and avionics (for the early ac at least anyways). the radar and avionics going into the FC1 will most likely be pull out of the J10 programme with only some small changes. this should means that the FC1 can now benefit form the J10’s weapons intergration tests – ie the weapons are already fully intergrated to the radar and avionics even before they were installed into the prototypes!
the only thing left to do is ironing out any last minute bugs and test the ac’s handling with the weapons to devise a flight envelop. then they should be able to ‘fast forward’ through the test firing stages, unless something goes wrong, and the ac should be ready.
this is almost certainly the reason behind the FC1’s planned delivery date being so close.
the idea should basically be to get the plane into PAF hands ASAP so they can start pilot conversion and to reach initial combat readiness to plug the PAF’s BVR hole in the shortest time frame.
in the meanwhile, ‘proper’ intergration of the PAF’s ‘ideal’ radar and avionic suit would take place at chengdu. this is probably what the FC1B is, and would most likely take alot longer to get everything sorted.
its also somewhat interesting that the planned start time for the FC1B is shortly after the precieved date the EU is planning on lifting its arms ban against china. so if the deal falls through, there is the chance of the FC1B being delayed or changed.
I would like to add that getting J10 avionics means getting the price lower so China would be more intrested and it would add more national components (which is important). At the dame time it could mean Pakistan getting more know how to get J10.
Where? The section is about Indian news and the articles are written in Indian newspapers by Indians. Being clever is just the result of being here. I have obeyed rules and did nothing to flame. The forum definitions are clear.
Looking at the aggressive maneuvres with BVR they are much further then just basic aircraft handling. Maybe if we can add that they left the road for different avionics and just settled for already tested in J10 avionics. That would mean that the plane is much more advanced then we can see in the formal program. Next year there is a Fc1-B planned. Fully capable.
I agree that it is difficult to put it in the right section. But I still have to add that these kind of articles (I posted) are not reality. A journalist telling that India is different then France. Bad correlation. France like India are extremely independent when it comes to international politicics and that is what US wants to control.
About your article Jai. India and Pakistan had perfect co-operation before. They have been visiting eachother and co-operatin in UN matters. I think if we skip political factors on both sides and we have a lot of potential.
One think I would like to add… Is there any news about LCA? Like the Chinese Fc1 there is some kind of pause. (I am talking about new pics).