One of my friends was born and brought up in Crewkerne. He was only three at the time of the accident but is well aware of the details and in fact remembers his paper round at Ron Meacham’s newsagents along the road from the petrol station! Anyway, the point of this post is that he confirms the Google maps image is indeed the correct location.
Ian
I know this is resurrecting an old thread, but hopefully somebody may be interested.
I was at the Museum of Berkshire Aviation an hour ago and thought you may like to see the Student as it is today. It’s quite a dull day here so apologies that the photos aren’t great, but they should give an idea of the progress made by the team at Woodley.
As you say D1566, some of the comments attributed to Bennett in that book were very bizarre and many showed a shocking disregard for the facts. Don Bennett’s son co-operated fully with Rayner at the time and was both very upset and very angry when he read the finished book and realised that Rayner had twisted everything he’d been told in order to show his father in a very bad light, something which the book clearly sets out to achieve from the start.
Please don’t judge Don Bennett solely on the unfair criticism in Rayner’s book. Most of the ex-BSAA people I’ve spoken to, who knew Bennett well, thought Rayner’s book was a disgrace.
However, I digress. I’m very glad pagen01 started this thread in memory of those who died at Llandow sixty years ago. It was a terrible tragedy and one which shouldn’t be forgotten.
As Eddie so rightly points out, the later Lancastrians had 1+1 seating. The original Lancastrian III order for BSAA was for 18 aircraft. Ultimately only 6 of these aircraft were delivered, the remaining 12 being cancelled as a result of the merger with BOAC. The seating was arranged with 7 forward facing seats on the port side and 6 on the starboard (there is a photo of the interior of a BSAA Lancastrian III in “Fly With the Stars”). For the passengers it appeared to be a far more comfortable arrangement than the starboard facing seats of the Lancastrian I.
The Lancastrian II aircraft briefly operated by BSAA were ex-RAF and were only fitted with 9 seats.
Incidentally, following on from the original theme of this thread, there is a photo on my website of the BSAA Lancaster ‘Star Ward’ (G-AGUM) fitted with the rather ungainly Airtech freight pannier, see – http://www.flywiththestars.co.uk/Pictures/Aircraft/aircraft.htm
It only made one (hair-raising) flight, from Langley, before the idea and presumably the pannier were scrapped.
Thanks to the endorsements of Eddie and others on this forum, our history of BSAA seems to be proving popular. Due to a number of problems with the publisher, as well as being available to order via booksellers, the book, “Fly With the Stars” is now available direct from the authors, UK post free, via the website http://www.flywiththestars.co.uk . Please contact us through the webite if you require more information. There are more photos of BSAA aircraft on there, and a fleet listing giving details of some of the aircraft mentioned in this thread.
Keith, Thanks very much for the kind words about our book. Just a minor correction in case anyone tries to follow the link above, the website address is http://www.flywiththestars.co.uk .
Kind regards,
Ian Ottaway
Thanks Keith. Yes, that’s a fine photo of Tudor IVB G-AGRF and one we used in “Fly with the Stars”. It’s quite rare to see photos of that particular aircraft with that combination of markings as I believe it was only painted like that for a few months, in early 1949.
I’m always keen to see photos of Tudors. It’s an aircraft I’d love to have seen ‘in the flesh’ in spite of the ungainly fin and rudder, but as you confirmed above, the last flight was in 1959, the year before I was born!
Kind regards,
Ian
Hi Keith,
Would that older spotter have been Brian Stainer by any chance? I bought that same photo from Brian a few years along with one or two others taken at the same time, such as the one below ……
Keith, Thanks so much for the kind words. Reading comments like that makes all the effort on the book and website feel worthwhile!
Best wishes,
Ian (BSAA1947)
That’s right, BSAA used Langley as their maintenance base, sharing the facilities with Hawker. The aircraft were indeed lightly loaded when arriving and departing, but as you say, there were still some hair-raising departures when the ground was soft, a couple of which we described in “Fly with the Stars”. In those instances the take-off started from the hard standing!
Well yes, that’s true Baz, Langley was a grass field, but had two large “runways” marked out on the grass! Certainly large enough to be used by the BSAA (British South American Airways) Lancastrians, Yorks and Tudors.
I was interested to see the thread on the Flyer forum about Langley as they referred to the film on my website http://www.flywiththestars.co.uk and used the Langley airfield plan from there too. Strange thing is that none of the contributors to that thread contacted me to ask if I had any more information.
I don’t of course, but …… 🙂
Hi James,
Many thanks for your reply. It IS the photo at the link, and I quite agree with your doubts about it being hand coloured. When I first saw the photo I didn’t imagine for one minute it was hand coloured, but when I saw the black & white print from Brian (which is identical, by the way) and he told me he’d never used colour film in the late 1940s, I thought that was the only possible answer. You’re right though, it certainly looks like the B & W print could have been from a colour transparency original.
Regarding the RAF Museum, my sister contacted them some time ago to ask if they had any material related to BSAA which we could arrange to view (not necessarily just photographs) and after months of waiting she received the reply that they have nothing at all of relevance! It seems a shame if all these photographs are stored away for extended periods without the museum allowing anyone access. Having said that, you’re right, if it is a Charles E. Brown and the original is there I would imagine the reproduction costs would be sizeable! I will attempt to contact them again now to ask a specific question about the photo.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to reply.
Best regards,
Ian