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  • in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread – 19 #2305136
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    This article reminded me of Kedar Karmarkar’s pics and I looked for some of Air Marshal Harish Masand at Aero India 2009..the MiG-35 didn’t come for AI-11.

    http://kedar.smugmug.com/Aero-India-2009/People-Pictures/mig35kedarkDSC0284/494361698_dCP6j-L.jpg

    and a much younger Harish Masand with a Hunter in the background..
    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1971War/Images/Masand.jpg

    this is an article on him. It reveals that “Khappuski”, the nickname that AM Ahluwahlia gave him was a corruption of “Khappe” (meaning left handed)

    On the morning of 04 Dec 71, No 37 Squadron ‘the Black Panthers’ lovingly called the “Black Panties” by other IAF squadrons, launched their very first mission of the war, with four Hunters. This was the first Squadron to get the camera nose Hunter (FR Mk 10) and had already flown several recce missions in to East Pakistan since July ’71.
    The Hunters were configured with four 100 Gal long range tanks and only gun ammo. The mission was lead by the CO, Wg Cdr SP ‘Supi’ Kaul (later Chief of the Air staff) with Flt Lt SK ‘Billu’ Sangar as no 2 and Sqn Ldr AM Mascarenhas as no 3 and Fg Offr Harish ‘Khappe’( left handed) Masand as no 4. The mission was search and destroy targets of opportunity at Tezgaon airfield, which was at 181 NMs with a small detour for the IP- Rupsi, while the Range of Action of the Hunter at LO-LO was 167 NM in that configuration.

    TOT was 0705 and a pair of MiG-21 FLs from 4 Sqn out of Guwahati was to RV overhead the target to tackle the CAP if any. A second mission by 17 Sqn Hunters was also to be in the area a few mins behind this force.

    Mascarenhas’ aircraft did not start and the 3 aircraft were airborne on time at 0630 into a blue sky with limitless visibility. However, Masand’s undercarriage failed to retract, but he kept tagging along for nearly 30-40 NMs trying to raise it, finally managing to raise it with the emergency override.

    2 mins after leaving the IP at low level, Masand on the left as a single aircraft, saw two silver Sabres (PAF 14 sqn ac out of Tezgaon, Dacca) swinging from their 3’0’ clock to 6 ‘o’clock at about 5 Nm. Having reported them the formation continued on course to target as they had no fuel to engage and kept trying to raise the MiG 21 CAP. The Sabres closed in to about 3000 yards by which time the form was at 480 Kts.

    At this time the Sabre behind SP Kaul dropped his tanks, and Masand seeing the whoosh of the fuel thought it was a missile launch and ordered a hard turn to the right. Although this Sabre eased off he feared that there would be another Sabre behind his tail, and continued through 180 deg of turn so as to get cross cover from the other section. On rolling out he saw a Sabre shooting at Billu from around 500 yds.

    Forgetting to punch his tanks Masand maneuvered behind the Sabre which continued to ignore him and closed to approx 150 yds. But by force of habit, he pressed the camera button rather than the trigger and had closed to less than 100yds by the time he dropped the trigger and fired. At this time the two were at approx 500-700 feet of the ground and the Sabre reversed left to evade, but at that close range, the four guns blew him up (on ground they found that Massand had fired only 2 rounds per gun a total of 8, he was that close).

    Masand continued right calling for the form to roll out approx 350 and head home. By then the MiGs were overhead and reported seeing the chute of the Pakistani pilot on R/T (sadly the PAF pilot- Flt Lt Saeed Afzal Khan of 14 sqn PAF is said to have ejected safely but was lynched by Mukti Bahini guerilla fighters). Masand never caught up with the rest of the formation and climbed so as to save fuel, landing with only 100lbs a side.

    On the ground he found that the formation that was being shot at was part of the 17 Squadron formation of Sqn Ldr Lele and Fg Offr ‘Buster’ Bains his course mate which had ended up ahead of time and in the same general area. Buster had 42 holes in his aircraft and was saved by the fact that the Sabres were using only ball ammo. Sqn Ldr Javed Afzal, the PAF formation leader has been incorrectly credited with this kill.

    Masand was awarded a Vir Chakra for this action and became the youngest pilot to get an air to air kill in this war being 24 yrs and 8months at the time and hence also the last serving VrC from 1971 to retire. He later went on to command No 28 Sqn (the first supersonics) on the MiG 29 on which he became one of the greatest exponents of the low level aerobatic art. He finally retired as an Air Marshal in 2005.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread – 19 #2305425
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    Finally a video of NP-1’s first flight. The view from the rear cockpit seems amazing ! Seems to be a clear influence from the Su-30MKI where the rear-seater gets a very good forward view..this must’ve definitely been an IAF requirement for the LCA trainers.

    http://tejas.gov.in/press_release/np1_first_flight.html%5DTejas website first flight video

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2012 #2306045
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    Russia to Sell Off 18 ‘Indian’ Su-30 Fighters

    India didn’t reject these fighters. they were simply exchanged for new Su-30MKIs with the difference being paid by India. The understanding was always that they would be upgraded to the MKI std but that was later deemed not possible at a reasonable cost and they’d already used up a significant portion of their service lives.

    If these Su-30s had work done on them to re-clock some of their service life, then they’d be worthwhile for some export customer like Belarus.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2012 #2306049
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    Interesting, did Tejas just got it’s first export ?

    more likely to be the F/A-50 from South Korea. HAL cannot even manufacture the 40 Tejas Mk1s for the IAF for the next 5 years (since they have an assembly line of just 8 per year currently), so I doubt that they’re even looking for export orders..they’d be welcome for sure, but HAL lacks the type of marketing and after-sales support that organisations like Saab or even KAI have and mostly satisfy themselves with sales to the IAF or IN.

    Besides, I doubt anyone will look to buy a fighter that hasn’t yet entered squadron service in the parent country, however good it may be when other options exist.

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2307162
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    one has to wonder, why air forces do thorough test of aircraft.. they should just give a call to obligatory and he’ll make a calculation or two and tell them what aircraft they need… so much wasted money… tssss… 😀

    yes, evaluations are a total waste of time and money..more like vacations I suppose. a simple 2 line calculation was all that the Swiss needed. Besides, at the end of the day, the evaluation didn’t really matter one bit, since the winner or the runner-up wasn’t chosen.

    in reply to: China vs Philippines #2018976
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    China’s claimed territorial waters
    OMG that’s greed if i ever saw it 😮
    insult to add to injury too

    I agree. greed is the only way to describe such absurd claims.

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2307544
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    The Gripen E/F will sport DSI.

    At least then the Gripen E/F will be able to achieve parity with the JF-17 ! 😀

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread – 19 #2307717
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    cross posting from BRF..apparently the IAF has accepted the first Tejas fighter from DRDO for user acceptance testing. Was this LSP-7 ? after all LSP-7 and 8 were supposed to be handed over to the IAF for acceptance tests. Not sure how accurate this news is since there have been no other reports on this. This report is translated from Russian

    Indian Air Force received the first light fighter Tejas, worked out by the Organization of the Indian Defense Research and Development (DRDO) in 1983, reports The Times of India. The transfer took place on the plane at the airport in Bangalore, HAL. Now the next few months, the Indian Air Force will conduct tests on the Tejas combat use, then it can be accepted for service.

    In total, the Indian Air Force got a long Tejas; 19 more such aircraft will be transferred to the military in the near future. In total, the Indian Air Force ordered 40 fighter aircraft Tejas, which will be formed from the two squadrons. On the future plans of the purchase of combat aircraft while it is not known. Tejas squadron will be based near Koimbattura and Tuticorin in Tamil Nadu. As expected, the new fighter will be formally adopted by the Air Force to the beginning of 2012. Tejas was created as a replacement of obsolete Soviet MiG-21 fighters. The fighter capable of speeds up to 1.9 thousand kilometers per hour, and its flight range is about two thousand kilometers. The fighter is armed with 23-millimeter cannon, and has eight points of suspension for various types of missiles, as well as adjustable and svobodnopadayuschih bombs. At present, based on the deck creates a version of the Tejas aircraft for the Indian Navy, as well as training and combat aircraft. In addition, now DRDO is developing Tejas Mk.II, a significantly improved version of the fighter.

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2308718
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    So, because he is Indonesian, he can’t comment about the look of an Indian aircraft?

    Interesting.

    A trollish single line remark like “its soo 80ish looking” is a dismissive remark and it denigrates the aircraft in question without looking at its capabilities and I can take exception to it especially when his country cannot even develop something to that level. something about people living in glass houses..

    And its interesting that when I look around, I cannot find him criticizing the Indonesian AF for purchasing the T-50 Golden Eagle by saying that its such an 80ish looking aircraft (and they cannot even build that aircraft on their own)..but when it comes to others, the superficial criticism comes very easily.

    Its not very different from the kind of remarks another troll used to make regarding the looks of aircraft and their implied consequent capabilities. the type where one says “oh it looks like this and hence..”..and you yourself didn’t find those remarks very funny.
    post and second post

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2309162
    BlackArcher
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    we dont develop T50, there is a lightweight fighter development project, mostly Korean with Indonesian as minor partner with 20% or so share which dont have any relationships with T50, and this dont even have any official drawing yet you cant said what it looks like..

    I know perfectly well how capable the Indonesian aerospace industry is. So before commenting on how the LCA looks 80ish, look at what your own Air Force is inducting as of now..its hardly 5th generation ish looking. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2309616
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    the JF-17 looked pretty 70’s with its slatted intakes, no rear view canopy, etc in fact it looked just like this old Romanian project

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/IAR-S.jpg

    that was before they saw the X-35 then hastily added DSI intakes and enlarged the LERX

    so, in your opinion, which era does it look like it belongs to now? and which era does the T-50 Golden Eagle look like it belongs to?

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2309722
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    Finally !

    The Govt. has cleared the acquisition of the PC-7 MkII basic trainers from Switzerland after a long delay due to KAI raising a formal complaint.

    Fulfiling Air Force’s long- pending requirement, government today cleared a proposal worth over Rs 1,800 crore for procuring 75 Pilatus aircraft from Switzerland to train its rookie pilots.

    Government has approved the deal to procure 75 Pilatus Basic Trainer Aircraft for IAF, highly placed Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.

    The decision was taken at a meeting of Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) this evening chaired by the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

    The deal was hanging fire for last one year after one of the contender Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) alleged that Pilatus’ bid was incomplete and it did not fulfil some of the requirements of Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) instituted by government.

    The aircraft are being procured by the IAF to provide training to its rookie pilots and replace the HPT-32 trainer aircraft which have been grounded for over two years after a fatal accident in 2009, Defence Ministry officials said.

    The delivery of the planes are expected to begin by the middle of 2013.

    link

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2309761
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    looks soo 80s….

    as opposed to the ultra modern 5th gen jet fighters that Indonesia is developing, while purchasing the oh-so breathtakingly 2000s looking T-50 Golden Eagles right ? :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Indian Missiles News #1793003
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    are those the pinaka missiles or the prithvi?

    You thought that those were Prithvi missiles !? 😮 😀

    Look at the diameter of the Prithvi..its a nuclear capable SRBM for God’s sake not a rocket!

    http://mod.nic.in/samachar/16feb01/image/6b.jpg

    http://cdn3.wn.com/ph/img/5f/dc/bcae607a2886595478c1aa8a32a4-grande.jpg

    in reply to: Quadbike Indian Air Force Thread Part 18 #2310590
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    and more ! the inflight pics were taken from another chase Hawk

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/398226_287094134718375_103329156428208_629492_913461777_n.jpg

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/389237_287094508051671_103329156428208_629508_608953966_n.jpg

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/303318_287094478051674_103329156428208_629507_902314669_n.jpg

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/380234_287094408051681_103329156428208_629505_1321242369_n.jpg

    http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/554301_287094431385012_103329156428208_629506_1410136050_n.jpg

    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/544968_287094551385000_103329156428208_629510_1919413546_n.jpg

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