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  • in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2368152
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    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2316249
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    It is the rafale+AASM combo who destroyed lybian armor yesterday near benghazi. There are pictures of the result now on the net…

    look post 5962

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?194456-Libya-Unrest-Thread/page398

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2316693
    eagle1
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    ppp,

    Of course we don’t know for sure but when you use cruise missiles you are not going to loiter in the Lybian airspace for long (if ever you entered in the Lybian airspace.) The mirage 2000D, 2000-5 and most of the rafales (with AASM or doing CAP) were in the lybian airspace to look for opportunity targets (and destroyed some armor) at the earliest stage of the conflict. That the point.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2316771
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    another news if not already postedd : CdG aircraft carrier will leave Toulon for Libya at 1pm today.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2316781
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    It is surprising to see that France used its fighter directly in the Lybian airspace while the british and US used massively Cruise missiles (tomahawk and storm shadows) or stealth bomber for the initial days of wars.
    I wonder if there is a reason for that ?

    On a side note I see that pure air superiority asset is almost always irrelevant…Either you have a weak airforce that can be grounded in the early hours of a conflict or perfectly dominated even by a heavy loaded fighter jets due to modern electronics and modern bvr missiles, either it is a strong airforce from a strong country (like China for instance) and no one would be foolish enough to engage F22 Typhoon or mirage 2000-5 due to the political risk and consequences.

    That leaves a very very narrow field of use for dedicated air superiority fighters…I think the F35 is the way to go in terms of concept (less pure kinematic performance but stealth and excellent sensor suite). For the moment a rafale or SH are tailor-made for this kind of conflict IMO.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317150
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    one of the thing that was recently tested in operational condition at the CEAM as reported in DSI was cooperative jamming. Probably a capability that could prove useful in such context against SAM sites.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317158
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    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317241
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    22h30 L’armée française dément qu’un de ses avions ait été abattu.

    official denial that a french fighter would have been shot by SAM.

    http://www.liberation.fr/monde/01012326494-direct-libye-intervention-kadhafi#avion

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317260
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    up to 15 rafales from the AdA are available for strike. Other are for training pilots, protecting the french air space or are in maintenance duties. Source AdA on french TV (France 2).

    so 14 SCALP and a recent 4*AASM strike salvo against several armored vehicles.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317275
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    Apparently from what I’ve understood on the news on french TV, the rafales and mirage flew from mainland France (Northern east) for their initial mission but they landed on Solenzara AFB in corsica on the way back for the rest of the campain.

    The information was still quite confused so this info should be confirmed.

    Also heard that the first strike was made with an AASM from a rafale.
    The new “four shots” seems to indicate it is a salvo from a rafale as an Mirage 2000D is limited to 2*gbu-12.

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2317368
    eagle1
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    20 heures. Quatre frappes par des avions français, plusieurs blindés détruits (Défense)

    http://www.liberation.fr/monde/01012326494-direct-libye-intervention-kadhafi

    Four new strikes from french fighter jets on libyan armor according to the french Mindef. Several vehicles destroyed.

    in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 7 #2324896
    eagle1
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    Since it is the time to make bets mine will go for Typhoon, SH and rafale shortlist.

    Because :

    1) some persistent rumors points that the typhoon and rafale toped the evaluation.

    2) Boeing predicts that the 3 twin engine fighter (exept mig-35) would make the shortlist.

    then,

    The F16 has a bad perception (pakistan, old platform) although it offers excellent value for money.

    The gripen NG is still only a demonstrator and was not tested as thoroughly as other competitors so in terms of “performance” I wonder how it could have demonstrated what is only on powerpoint presentation and PR yet. Besides the political gain is moderate.

    And to finish the mig-35 has the least chance to get the deal IMO.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2326888
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    What we do know is that the processing power has been dramatically increased with 4 new processors added for the RBE2 Aesa (from A&C). Then we don’t know more and the rest is speculation. So I won’t try to make up something like many would do in similar circumstances.

    As for the speculation part, with a program started in 2006/2007 (the roadmap for the F3+ standard was adopted in 2006) and state funding/support it is much more likely that the extent of the back end got further modifications than Selex programs. It is not a question of experience but time and resources allocated to the program. That the main differentiator in my opinion : the state support.

    In one of the latest issue of A&C (I get it every week) a new roadmap for the Rbe2 aesa radar is being prepared according to a Thales official. It should be adopted before year end by the french MoD. That is a clear indicator that the government support is not diminishing so that differentiator is likely to remain true.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2327154
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    Slenke,

    those are personal conclusions. Anyone can say “look they have the experience of that particular program”. Ok but so what ? And then of course you cannot be specific about which part were incorporated in the raven aesa radar.

    I know that there was the NORA demonstrator (just like most major european countries had demonstartor program), but does that mean that the “back end” is being used for the raven aesa ? And if that back end really exist…I mean developed at a sufficient stage to be incorporated in a follow on aesa radar.

    Given the timeframe of the development and the imperative to be ready for potential export customer (and the relative lack of support compared to american or french aesa program) it is much more likely that it uses the PS-05 back end.

    Besides DSI is a very well informed defense newspaper who often has access to first hand information even when it can be controversial (remember the UAE rafale deal negotiation). So I believe they have credibility…Especially considering the fact that AESA fighter radar was the special thematic of the previous edition of DSI magazine (on the cover).

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread IV #2327557
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    An interesting insight from pprune on the pure AtA emphasis of the typhoon.

    I joined the project just before the ESR-D was signed off and was involved in drafting specs (as an OR Rep) during the mid to late 80s. I left the project about the time you started work, although I became involved in testing later on. I struggle to recall any detailed discussion of the air to ground capability at all in my area on the defensive side of life during those early years. You would have known my colleague TB quite well as he did the similar job on the AI Sub System and you designed against his specs.

    I maintain my line. The design driver was the air to air role. The secondary air to surface functionality was included but was subordinate when a conflict in requirement arose. There’s a good reason why it was not in the early sw releases. Germany, emphatically, did not even require an A-G capability to be tested during the early years. Air to air capability was paramount and incidentally, the Italian F104 was purely an air to air platform. As an aside, if our cost increases are bad, for the Italians add the price of a Tornado F3 lease and bizarrely, an F16 lease to tide them over. Remember the context. For air to ground roles, Germany had the F4 but at that time was not allowed to operate outside of its own airspace. Italy had the Tornado GR1 and Spain had bought the dual role F18. We had Jaguar, Harrier and Tornado GR1 so no one envisaged the secondary A-G capability as being anything other than for operational flexibility. In retrospect, it’s a good job that the UK “senior management” were indeed visionary and pressed the other Nations so hard but that’s not the point.

    As for OT, all the original testing was purely A-A based. It was only in 2005 that the emphasis switched and even then only on a National basis.

    As I wrote the scenarios for spec compliance for one of the other sub systems and then supported much of the operational testing I am confident that I am 100% correct.

    So to answer your criticism, whilst I didn’t write the requirement, I was responsible for interpreting that requirement for MOD PE and Industry. I hope, therefore, that I wasn’t ill informed. If you interpreted those specs in any other way during development, it may be quite illuminating.

    To reemphasise my original point, it is mischievous for NAO to criticise a project for not delivering a capability which was not part of the original ESR-D other than as a secondary role. The aircraft costs more because industry was employed for 10 years longer than planned and Nations cut their production numbers. It should come as no surprise that it has cost us as much for fewer aircraft because the Industry contracts branches were careful to include punitive termination clauses tied to workshare.

    As an aside, it is our lack of corporate memory that allows such discussions to ensue.

    http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/444353-typhoon-bargain-75-over-budget-2.html

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