The popular Mk6 Webley was probably the best service revolver ever made and used in both wars, but it was basically issued to officers and was more a weapon used to shoot laggards on your own side when going over the top in that hell that was WW1 trench warfare…
Trench-raiding or entering dugouts were probably the only time that a pistol was an advantage against someone armed with a rifle. I think British officers soon learned to wear helmets and carry a Lee-Enfield when going over-the-top as advancing carrying a revolver (or a swagger-stick :rolleyes:) would make you an obvious target for snipers, or anybody else for that matter!
It wasn’t only army officers who needed a revolver to ‘encourage’ their subordinates; I remember reading about a Lancaster Pilot (Walter Thompson?) who was forced to draw his revolver on his navigator over the Bay of Biscay when he refused to take a reading with his sextant!
The navigator was ‘reassigned’; to the relief of the rest of the crew (who all thought it was well overdue) but before that incident the Canadian pilot had been derided for carrying his ‘wild-west six-shooter’!
A lot shoved them down into their boots.
As was suggested I’d say more likely they’d stuff an Enfield down the side of a flying boot once in the cockpit.
Surely a revolver shoved down a flying-boot would be useless in the case of a bale-out…
…most pilots seemed to lose their boots when their parachute opened even when there wasn’t a heavy revolver in there!
What was the point of carrying one anyway? I doubt there is a single case of shot-down aircrew ‘fighting’ their way back to their own lines. I suppose you could try to puncture the fuel tanks of your crashed aircraft but what good would 0.38 ball ammo be against self-sealing tanks?
I seem to remember reading that during the Battle-of-Britain Luftwaffe aircrew were prevented from carrying side-arms due to the number of them that deliberately shot themselves when they were down in the channel, presumably due to the effects of exposure and the slim chance of being recovered.
Prior to the airshow the air force asked around at a few of Dutch aviation message boards for a achievable wish list (achievable meaning: no Japanese F-2s, Iranian F-14s etc). The Vulcan appeared very high on most lists. So I would assume it was booked by popular demand.
Excellent post. Just goes to show…..it can be done!
So how about some of this attitude from the RAF?
Have you booked her for a flypast on the Honeymoon night?
Who, the Vulcan…..or his fiancé? :diablo:
Congratulations, BlueRobin!
Its been a long day and I took it as a serious thread….doh!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist. 😮
Other than the picture being of a Spitfire and not a Buffalo….?
There are no flies on you Jon! :rolleyes:
Clouds wrong way up?
Although we have no reason to complain (after all we just have a small country), we have a lack of historic aircraft over here. So we are happy to invite our neighbours and pay for their contribution.
And we are always happy to see Dutch aircraft visit the UK. 🙂
P.S. Can we have ‘our’ Do24T back please? :diablo:
Don’t think the Vulcan does it’s displays in Britain for free.
No, I didn’t think it did…..I was just wondering if there were a lack of UK venues willing to pay for the Vulcan.
Not sure even Old Shape’s rules of crime and punishment would sort that one out! :rolleyes:
No no and thrice no. I KEEP repeating, my system is the proper western judicicial one, with a 24 month appeal period. I do not believe in vigilante actions.
Sorry, I know your stance…..I was just joking as I thought the situation was ironic. 🙂
Not sure even Old Shape’s rules of crime and punishment would sort that one out! :rolleyes:
No no and thrice no. I KEEP repeating, my system is the proper western judicicial one, with a 24 month appeal period. I do not believe in vigilante actions.
Sorry, I know your stance…..I was just joking as I thought the situation was ironic. 🙂
This man would be dead now if old shape had his way.
“Mr Lawless and another man were convicted of firebombing Mr Wilkins’s flat after wrongly suspecting him of being a paedophile.”
Not sure even Old Shape’s rules of crime and punishment would sort that one out! :rolleyes:
This man would be dead now if old shape had his way.
“Mr Lawless and another man were convicted of firebombing Mr Wilkins’s flat after wrongly suspecting him of being a paedophile.”
Not sure even Old Shape’s rules of crime and punishment would sort that one out! :rolleyes:
That’s a great find, thanks for posting. It is amazing what wartime subjects make in onto such ‘light’ programming these days.
The plans shown didn’t look like decoy plans to me, more like balsa-wood model plans but I could be wrong. The wartime decoy wouldn’t have had the box underneath (not sure why they built it that way) as the shadows a decoy cast, including the undercarriage, were as important as the general look of it.
I doubt there was much of the decoy worth saving; unless you were interested in it as a decoy. It looked very shoddily covered and wouldn’t last long in any sort of weather.
I went to Cosford to see the Vulcan; my third attempt to see it flying.
It was also my third attempt to get into Cosford in the last five years and I have to say the traffic situation has always seemed poor in comparison to other Airshow venues although this year I had no problem getting in at 09:00 because I came south down the A41. 😉 As some have said the show seemed very busy this year but in previous years I’ve been directed down all sorts of minor roads and still been queuing miles away when the display started.
Was the Vulcan displaying at 17:30 the wisest decision given the traditional traffic problems?
What was displayed I enjoyed but the show also seemed very light on RAF hardware, given that it is one of the biggest RAF airshows. No Tornado, of any description, no Harrier, no Hercules, no Merlin, and no flypast by C-17, VC-10, Tristar, Nimrod or Sentry. Virtually nonexistent static display of current RAF types.
I know the RAF is stretched at the moment but it would have been nice to see some of the newer aircraft and also some of those that won’t be around much longer.