A long shot maybe but could they have been aircraft at the Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation Museum at Flixton??
You mean could it have been the ‘Flixton Buck’ public house which the museum is behind?
I distinctly remember this was a pub rather than a museum…and the aircraft were very close to it, maybe within 25 feet.
However, was there a time when this museum was just a couple of aircraft round the back of a pub?
WA$.
It was found in Canada near the remnants of a an airframe believed to be a Mossie.
Doh!…Mosquito would have been my second guess.
I should have looked at your location. Not many Horsa in Canada.
From the photos it looks like it is noticeably curved in two directions.
That would tend to place it near the tail or (more likely) to nose of an aircraft.
A camera port sounds very plausible.
WA$.
I never bid on anything unless i know what I am buying, if you are not 100% sure don’t bid.
I wish i had a £1 for everything that is being sold on eBay right now as Spitfire but of coarse isnt.
That sounds like very good advice. 🙂
(This listing is absolutely nothing to do with me.)
WA$.
Just a guess…but could it be from a Horsa glider?
It’s wooden, would plug an oval window or escape hatch (or is it too small), and the construction looks a bit ‘cheap and cheerful’.
WA$.
Does sound like the old Blue Lias pub.
Sadly the aircraft have been gone a long time.
When you say ‘the aircraft have’ do you mean plural?
Were there ever two there?
Can anybody post a photo of the one that definitely was there?
Glad the Hunter ‘made it’. 🙂
WA$.
Just looked it up:
Hunter F1 WT651 was gate guard outside 8 Group Royal Observer Corps HQ Bunker.
It lasted until 17/01/1992 (after the ROC were ‘stood down’).
I wonder if it is still in existence?
WA$.
Was told that some guy had a harrier in is front garden around the area about 10 years or so ago. would have been around the church lawford area I’m told it was.??
Never did find it and from the description it sounded more like a hunter.
The ‘Church Lawford Harrier’ was probably the gate guard at the Observer Corps HQ Bunker on Lawford Heath Lane.
It was a Hunter (well spotted) and was there until about 1986 (edit – wrong!) when the HQ Bunker closed.
WA$.
The Blue Lias Pub, Long Itchington, near Leamington Spa Warwickshire fits the bill I think.
Funnily enough I know the Blue Lias quite well (but long after any aircraft were removed), it’s not that far from my home town.
I don’t think it’s the right one though, it’s a bit too close to where we lived and I’m sure there were two aircraft at the pub I’m trying to trace.
Thanks everybody for trying (and for the additional information).
WA$.
You couldn’t make it up!
I remember seeing ‘Very Important Person’ but it was years ago.
I looked it up and was surprised that the method of escape in the film was to impersonate the members of an inspection party from the Swiss Red Cross and to ‘simply’ walk out while the real Red Cross were still in the camp.
This (of course) was actually tried for real by POW’s during the war.
WA$.
I have read similar accounts of prisoners losing identities. In Clive Dunn’s book ‘Permission To Speak’ he wrote about how, while a prisoner for four years, in certain camps the prisoners working in the admin office would remove files and hide them. Those prisoners then ‘never existed’. At roll call they hid under the buildings. At other times they worked on tunnels and the Germans never suspected a thing as all the prisoners they knew of were present all the time.
Clive Dunn of Dad’s Army fame was a POW. Blimey, never knew that!
And that’s a new escape tactic to me also.
The reverse of this is of course the tactic of hiding POW’s in the camp and letting the Germans think they had escaped. A search would be mounted (inside and outside of the wire) and of course if they weren’t found (inside) it was assumed they had escaped and got away.
Later when things had cooled down other POW’s could escape and their place at roll-call (appell) was taken by the POW’s who had been hiding (but who were in no condition to escape themselves).
If the real escaping POW’s could get out without leaving any evidence their chances of getting away were greatly increased as nobody would be looking for them.
Simple when you know how but a work of genius nevertheless!
I think the POW’s called them ‘ghosts’.
WA$.
What about POW’s ‘swapping’ identities with other prisoners?
I can’t remember the specific case but a pilot swapped identities with a private from the infantry.
I think the idea was that officers were guarded more closely than other ranks as they were more likely to escape. In return I think conditions were probably better for officers.
WA$.
Were prisioner exchanges common? I haven’t heard much about them.
I’ve just been re-reading ‘The Great Escape’ by Paul Brickhill.
Shortly after the escape (and when the POW’s have found out that fifty of the escapees have been shot) some POW’s are repatriated. These included Group Captain H.M.Massey, the Senior British Officer. These prisoners had been badly wounded when they were shot down.
I think this is how the British authorities found out about the shooting of the fifty POW’s.
WA$.
It’s seemed a bit erratic all day as far as I’m concerned.
WA$.
P.S. Where did Indy go? Not sure I like your new aVatar.
It’s seemed a bit erratic all day as far as I’m concerned.
WA$.
P.S. Where did Indy go? Not sure I like your new aVatar.
I believe that it was turned over on the starter only, not actually ‘running’ as such
That would make a lot of sense, actually.
Any other Hercules-powered aircraft still operational?
I don’t think there are any unless there is a Bristol Freighter still working somewhere.
There is still hope that one of the Beaufighter rebuilds will make it into the sky.
There was a Noratlas in France still airworthy a couple of years back (and presumably still is, although I’ve not seen any reports of it for a year or two).
I saw the Noratlas at Coventry in 2001(?) and the pilot did a ‘Khe Sanh’ approach that convinced 99% of the crowd (including me) that they were about to witness a crash.
When it landed at the end of its display the Noratlas got a big round of applause.
WA$.