This particular aircraft started as that rare beast, a Sunderland Mk IV, renamed the Short Seaford.
Only eight built? Is that correct?
I’d love to hear all four Bristol Hercules engines running.
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Right:
It definitely didn’t fly.
The ‘boarding’ shot was done on land with one engine running. The foreground water was in a ‘pond’ built around the quay (parts of which ‘hid’ the beaching gear) and the background was a ‘matt painting’.
Well there you go.
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Thanks for those links.
I’m intrigued now.
Hang on, I’ll phone my brother.
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Wasn’t this the one seen (briefly) in ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’?
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I know it’s not a landplane on floats but…
…I never tire of watching this Arado 196 footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blYJer0wDr0
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It depends on how modern the aircraft is. The MOD would remove any ‘sensitive’ items such as avionics that were ‘classified’ and manufacturers may wish to protect their ‘intellectual property’.
For example the recently retired Sea Harriers had their radars removed.
I think there is a camera displayed with the SR71 at Duxford but I’m sure it’s older obsolete technology.
Of course any dangerous items should be removed – ejection seat pyrotechnics, canopy detonation cords, avionics demolition devices (where fitted) and cable cutters (on older aircraft).
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Will have to search but IIRC a 617 crashed with an upkeep on the way to the target.The load didn,t go off like it was supposed to and the Jerries were presented with a nice slightly burnt example that they copied but couldn,t get to work…No cricketers in Germany apparently.:diablo:
Operationally Upkeep was fitted with a time-delayed demolition-fuse (acid type) that was designed to stop it falling into enemy hands.
I don’t know when this fuse was activated (presumably before flying over enemy territory) but in this case it obviously didn’t have the desired effect.
I did hear a story that the Lancaster in question was completely destroyed and next morning the local mayor and civic dignitaries were standing around admiring their ‘fuel tank’ trophy…
…until some Luftwaffe personnel arrived and told them what it was!
Incidentally this was where ‘public’ details of Upkeep first emerged as the Luftwaffe did a detailed evaluation of Upkeep complete with drawings and this report was available well before the 1975 release of the British ‘secret’ files.
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There is footage (on that same website) showing a dummy Upkeep hitting the water – the resulting plume hitting and damaging the tail of the Lancaster that dropped it, although according to the notes on the film the crew got home.
Yes, I knew of this incident (but didn’t know it happened twice).
I’m certain no Lancaster (or Wellington) was lost during trials with Upkeep…
…but the A-26 is a mystery to me.
Apart from seeing this footage I’ve never heard any mention of it.
Was it a USAAF trial with Highball?
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It was an A-26.
Thanks (smart ****)! 😀
I was completely wrong about it being on land (although at least my aircraft recognition wasn’t completely wrong).
Disturbing footage.
Any idea where and when this occurred and why an A-26 was being used?
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What are the options?
Can I add my voice as one who has purchased recovered aviation relics but has never taken part in any dig.
As some have pointed out there is simply no way that every recovered relic could be conserved or displayed and very few museum visitors would benefit from seeing them in an un-restored state even if it were possible.
So that leaves four choices as I see it:
1) Don’t dig up anything.
2) Dig up a few things and keep everything.
3) Dig up a lot of things and then destroy most of what is dug up.
4) Dig up a lot of things and then sell what would otherwise have been destroyed.
I think it should be regulated (by the MOD) but (1) is not an option for me.
I’m sure many would go for option (2) as long as it was them that was allowed to dig to the exclusion of everybody else but the problems of storage and conservation would soon bring a halt to their activities.
I suspect that a mix of (3) and (4) is the current situation…and I would rather see (4) than (3).
The treatment of all crash sites should be respectful especially where any possibility of uncovering human remains exists.
I would also echo the sentiments that selling the personal effects of deceased aircrew recovered from the site is extremely distasteful at best and abhorrent if that is the motive for the dig.
I do not and would not buy such personal items.
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On the subject of Upkeep / Highball:
Does anybody remember seeing some archive footage of a test drop of Highball (I think) on land?
The test goes disastrously wrong as the weapon bounces back high enough knock the tail off the aircraft. The aircraft immediately pitches down and crashes killing the crew.
The strange thing is the aircraft was not a Mosquito (unless my powers of aircraft recognition failed me) and for some reason I have the idea it was American (possibly a Boston DB-7/A-20).
Anybody else seen this?
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Just exactly where was this Gannet supposed to operate from…
…the South Atlantic…in May! 😮
A lot of Royal Navy warships and auxiliaries were damaged by the heavy seas!
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Anyone got a photo of this or is it a shaggy dog story? I have the rumour in writing that this was a conversion done by Shorts during the Falklands conflict. Over to you!:D
Never heard anything like this.
GOT to be a shaggy dog! 😀
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The de Havilland brothers (and their father).
I’m ashamed to say I can’t remember their names (apart from Geoffrey).
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Graham,
In all seriousness, have you thought about allowing some way for the interior to be inspected when it is completed?
Customs may want to look inside!
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