PondskaterGraham – Defence Regulations removed a lot of traditional rights, workers could be forced to move to where there was a skills shortage, strikes were illegal and internment without trial was introduced.
See The Labour Movement and World War Two
PondskaterInteresting topic.
From my research, it seems that some women being recruited to war work sometimes took the romantic view that they were there to help the war effort, and accepted whatever terms they were given. But when supplemented by old hands from the W Midlands motor indutry, they discovered the intricacies of double time and industrial disputes. One Short Brothers factory had just such unrest centred on a group of Austins workers who, working away from home and paying for lodging, were short of money. They had a couple of heated meetings and small scale work-to-rules but no actual strikes.
An MP apparently said in parliament that “The right to strike is what we are fighting for” but I can’t recall which one. It was taken up by a headline in the 8th Army’s newspaper.
See this article which also mentions strikes at Rolls Royce Glasgow over equal pay for women and a dispute at a factory producing Halifax parts in London.
AllanK
PondskaterAt Sywell we have had an accession policy since we started, receipts and thank you letters having been sent out from the outset.
Sounds like the right approach to me. Being offered suitable paperwork for a loan or donation (including detailed condition reports for loans) is a big commitment for a museum but it provides benefits to both sides in the deal. The museum can prove it was given something and not merely loaned it, they can prove an item is returned in the condition in which it was received.
And if things should go wrong, which this thread shows can happen at all levels, offering to see somebody in court is a better prospect when clutching all the paperwork.
Sywell is an interesting case of adopting many of the standards of an accredited museum. But you surely accept that operating outside the scheme makes it harder for people to judge that you are a safe pair of hands. Would I lend to Sywell? – probably, after a good check of the paperwork and environmental conditions although I’m not sure you’d want flying boat stuff though.;) What you highlight is that it takes more effort to check out a non-accredited museum and separate out the private displays from the real museums.
As JDK rightly says:
You could vary Pondskater’s advice; if you are thinking of loaning or gifting items, then see that you are happy that they have process and paperwork in place that fits what we have discussed here. if they are accredited and they don’t, report them. If they aren’t accredited and they do, good for them, and if you feel comfortable with the feel of that museum, then you have grounds for a decision.
There are (outside the national museums) two standards to look out for – Designated Collections and Museums and Accredited Museums – both of which bring extra work but also benefits to the museums as well as guidance to those of us looking in for outside.
I would suggest stating that you are “working towards accreditation” as a way of introducing donors to the standards you have adopted, but with the MLAs days numbered, who knows if there will be anything to replace it and recognise professional standards.
Beetle monitoring? – a friend of mine has the job of checking insect traps once a month in a large country house where she works. Not her favourite bit of the job.
AllanK
Pondskateryou need 2 or 3 signatures in a museum`s cheque book, so why not on other important decisions?
You do – in a real museum. Disposing of items donated and accessioned to the collection normally requires a decision of the trustees, and then they have to be offered free to other museums first.
But those are the professional standards in the accredited museums. The accreditation scheme was mentioned above by TwinOtter. Unfortunately, the scheme is administered by the MLA who are about to be closed by the government purge on Quangos – so who will set the standards in future and protect your items and our heritage?
The problem is there is nothing to stop me setting up a “museum” tomorrow and accepting loans and donations without any procedures in place to look after them.
My advice is to only loan to accredited museums. They will offer you all the paperwork of a loan agreement which will include full condition reports on the object so there can be no dispute that when it is handed back it is in the same condition as when borrowed. If they don’t offer all the paperwork, walk away and take your loans and donations to somewhere which does.
Private displays are not real museums.
AllanK
PondskaterThe consideration might answer as no, but the sacriledge of “butchering” an historic AEW2 is a mute point if the donor airframe is not going to survive in anycase?
You raise an intriguing possibility. Funding might be all but impossible to obtain for the Cyprus Shacks but, if a carefully constructed proposal was put forward to use surviving parts and one of those AEW2s to recreate a currently extinct MR1 then the historic significance of the project might make funding somewhat easier.
PondskaterClearly both sides have a point.
But her presentation of her points fail in that she damaged IWM’s reputation. It is now seen as family unfriendly. :rolleyes:
On your later points, I worked in a small museum which did much of what you suggest. Teachers resources were sent out in advance (although not on the web because we were small and couldn’t afford to) pupils were allowed to handle objects in the education room, video conferencing was used (indeed pioneered) when somebody bought the equipment for the museum and the time in the museum was but a small part of the whole. But unless you get to see behind the scenes, you wouldn’t know that, you’d only see the kids on their half hour worksheet treasure hunt. The museum regularly won the Sandford Award, recognising their quality and excellence for education work. Apart from HMS Belfast, I couldn’t find Imperial War Museum on the list of award holders.
She was wrong. OK it was a private speech but they always leak when controversial. They should have planned publicity to celebrate good education work and encourage the things you talk about.
PondskaterClearly both sides have a point.
But her presentation of her points fail in that she damaged IWM’s reputation. It is now seen as family unfriendly. :rolleyes:
On your later points, I worked in a small museum which did much of what you suggest. Teachers resources were sent out in advance (although not on the web because we were small and couldn’t afford to) pupils were allowed to handle objects in the education room, video conferencing was used (indeed pioneered) when somebody bought the equipment for the museum and the time in the museum was but a small part of the whole. But unless you get to see behind the scenes, you wouldn’t know that, you’d only see the kids on their half hour worksheet treasure hunt. The museum regularly won the Sandford Award, recognising their quality and excellence for education work. Apart from HMS Belfast, I couldn’t find Imperial War Museum on the list of award holders.
She was wrong. OK it was a private speech but they always leak when controversial. They should have planned publicity to celebrate good education work and encourage the things you talk about.
PondskaterBit ironic that Mrs Lees is a Trustee of “Kids In Museums”……..
Now that you couldn’t make up 😮
PondskaterBit ironic that Mrs Lees is a Trustee of “Kids In Museums”……..
Now that you couldn’t make up 😮
PondskaterIs she related to Chox?
I sit here, jaw dropped, shaking my head wondering if her PR team knew what she was about to do to the museum’s fine image.
Yes, she has some ideas, teach teachers is a good one, but her appraoch is destructive – as she admits :confused:
I know a museum which has quietly been doing great work with a video link to classrooms so the museum’s staff can teach children in their own classrooms. Why not celebrate successes instead of the negative whining.
IWM won’t win the Child Friendly Museum prize this year: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/kidsinmuseumscampaign
AllanK
PondskaterIs she related to Chox?
I sit here, jaw dropped, shaking my head wondering if her PR team knew what she was about to do to the museum’s fine image.
Yes, she has some ideas, teach teachers is a good one, but her appraoch is destructive – as she admits :confused:
I know a museum which has quietly been doing great work with a video link to classrooms so the museum’s staff can teach children in their own classrooms. Why not celebrate successes instead of the negative whining.
IWM won’t win the Child Friendly Museum prize this year: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/kidsinmuseumscampaign
AllanK
PondskaterROS – Repaired on site (as opposed to RIW – Repaired in Works)
Cat 3 accidents are capable of ROS by another unit or a contractor.
Cat 2 would be repaired by the unit, Cat 4 taken to a Maintenance Unit or contractor’s site for repair and Cat 5 is beyond repair (write off).
Its the trouble with the RAF – too many TLAs (Three Letter Acronyms ;))
AllanK
PondskaterHi,
I did a guide for Photobucket on another forum. You can read it here: – http://theflyingboatforum.hostingdelivered.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=410
Photobucket might have changed a little but the basics should still work, if my guide makes sense! 🙂
AllanK
PondskaterHi,
I did a guide for Photobucket on another forum. You can read it here: – http://theflyingboatforum.hostingdelivered.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=410
Photobucket might have changed a little but the basics should still work, if my guide makes sense! 🙂
AllanK
PondskaterYes, there is. Chap wrote it all up in a nice little book. See: http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=geoffrey+oakes&bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sts=t (Other on-line booksellers are available) and I got my copy from Aeroventure.
AK
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