Heard from another native, who mentioned a collision between a Wellington and a Spitfire or Hurricane. One of them came down at Mosstodloch.
Anybody know anything?
I must be boring the natives to distraction with my questions. It’s costing me beer.
Damn! Now I’m tempted to go to the library. I was all fired up to go hill walking tomorrow. Would that be the german Seahawk that came down near Lochindorb?
I heard tell of a german Seahawk pilot, on a course, who was going round R.N.A.S. Fulmar (RAF Lossie now) with a big grin. When asked why, he replied that he was the first german to drop bombs on britain since the 2nd World War, and he was getting advice on how to do it better!
Rothes Ju188
Found some information about Ju 188 F-1, Werke Nr 280608, A6+HH on
http://www.rafandluftwaffe.info/lists/luftwaffe2.html
and
http://www.luftwaffe.no/SIG/Losses/tap43.html.
It is located 5km NW of Rothes. I’ll ask someone I know who remembers seeing wreckage when he was doing Forestry work on the hills. Hopefully the site isn’t lost under the tree planting and is on the open moorland.
Someone has been making glyphs with the tree planting up there too. Google Earth shows a horse, a spiral and a triangle up there now!
Does anyone know anything about a Ju188 which came down around June 21st, 1944 on the ‘Green Hill’ a mile or two North West of Rothes? Apparently
it dropped an engine beforehand, which came down on the edge of woods. I’m told that wreckage lies on the edge of woods near the boundary fence which separates two estates, as seen by locals some years ago. Al Paul gave me some interesting information, but I’ve never seen any mention of it anywhere else.
By the way Al, most of the local wrecks were out of range for small boys. A pity though. There was so much more stuff lying around.
A bit out of date, but some years back I was pootling about at cloudbase in a Ka 8 glider, somewhere south of Forres, when I saw a Dragon Rapide go past from west to east, slightly below and very close. I didn’t say anything to anyone at the time, nor did I mention it in my log book because I wasn’t sure it was for real! I thought people would just take the p*ss, as if I’d said I’d seen a UFO.
A few days later I read in the local paper that it had been commemorating an Inverness airport anniversary. My mind was put at ease although I was kind of disappointed that it wasn’t a ghostly experience…
Excellent video. Next time I see one go by, I’ll surely recognise it.
And I’ll be sure to let you know!
Bill Waterton, of Gloster fame, pranged one on his first flight due to an obscure fuel system defect. He reckoned you could keep a 12 cylinder Merlin going by pumping the primer, but not the 24 cylinders in a Sabre.
I think the turret is gone now. It was next to a car park in the woods, beside an old abandoned vehicle according to the person who told me about it.
HMS Graph
HMS Graph might be the U-boat that was under tow in bad weather and sank off Islay. Went there on a scuba diving holiday in 1990 but the weather was too rough for a dive. Went to the pub instead, where some small parts, valve control wheels etc. were displayed. Can’t remember the name of the pub though. That seems to happen occasionaly.
Rothes Lancaster engine bearers
Hello – new here. Hello too to Al.
I have a copy of a local (Rothes) lads diary entries from the 1940s. He wrote of a plane crash at Drumbain, A mile or so west of Rothes on 14th Feb 1942. It struck trees in the belt of woods at Ardcanny before it came down in the Drumbain Burn at the bottom of a ravine. Other locals tell me it was a Wellington and there was one survivor, found by a shepherd, from a crew of 5 -an air gunner who was later killed. It seems a team from Dundee arrived and was billeted here to remove the wreckage. Quite likely as Williamsons, the local Elgin scrap merchant mentioned a big scrapyard in Dundee too.
I’m told that quite a lot was buried near the site due to the terrain. Locals have offered to show me exactly where they used to collect bullets and bits of burnt alloy as kids.
Tony Carlin, the station historian at RAF Lossie tells me that Wellington 1C N2825 from 20 OTU crashed ‘into a hill near Rothes’ on the date above. At that time 20 OTU was based at Lossie.
Other research shows that Sgt. Henry Clark (1015524) age 27 Obs. 20 OTU was lost in Wellington N2825 in an accident 14/2/42.
Fairly conclusive?
As for the Lancaster engine bearers, the nearest Lancaster crash I know of was at Mulben, just a few miles East North East of Rothes. The date was also in the diary I had, but I’ve mislaid it. Locals can remember playing in a turret there some years ago.
I spoke to the farmer at Drumbain and he tells me his father bought some aircraft scrap for fabricating things on the farm, so maybe Al wasn’t so far off when he joked about a combine harvester firewall. Perhaps the bearers were left over from the farmers purchase.