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    I for one would be very disappointed if countries didn’t spy on each other, even among friends. If you aren’t spying you aren’t trying. It’s blanket surveillance on your own people that’s messed up.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2250991
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    amended version of the June 16, 2013
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217646&d=1371345390

    Amazing work as always.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2253670
    Multirole
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    The diagram shows it is more closely sized to an F-106.
    It is not even remotely close to the size of a B-58.

    To compare the aircraft shot down by rear gunners in WWII to aircraft shot down by fighter pilots in “Nam is moronic on its best day.
    His terminology is simply wrong as he seems to have no idea of what he difference is between a bomber and fighter bomber and they are in different worlds.

    Eh… yeah. Thanks for confirming again people who use ad hominem attacks and get stuck on jargon are covering for a lack of substance.

    It doesn’t matter what you want to call it. All bombers/strikers have range, payload, and self protection. It’s these parameters we’re interested in.

    The B-58’s 29 meter OA length and 80 ton weight is a pretty close approximation IMO, despite being worlds apart in other ways.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2253710
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    Bomber: B-52, B-1, B-2, Tu-160, Bison, Vulcan.

    This is not a bomber or even close.

    The F-105 was designed to deliver nuclear bombs. It was a fighter bomber with the worst wing loading in Vietnam yet it scored over twenty air to air kills.

    This is a fighter bomber, period.
    To call it a bomber is silly.

    You’re getting too hung up on terminology. The B-17 scored way more than 20 air to air kills, no one calls it a fighter bomber.

    If Blitzo is right about this aircraft being inthe 80 ton range, that will make it very comparable to the B-58 size wise. Certainly it will have range at least as good as the H-6k its intended to replace.

    in reply to: B-1 Lancer as a upgraded next gen Stealth bomber? #2254353
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    Basically the whole history of supersonic strategic bombers have been a flop. B-58 was withdrawn in a decade. B-70 cancelled. B-1 cancelled and repurposed as B-1B, but in practice no better than B-52 with cruise missiles. It never achieved it’s intended high speed low altitude role until after the Cold War due to radar problems.

    In retrospect a low altitude LO bomber should have served in the interim between the B-52 and B-2. Something like a stealthier Vulcan could’ve been built instead, and it would be relevant as a cheap bomb truck into the 2040s.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2254363
    Multirole
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    1, that’s iran
    2, pakistan really needs a bomber of this size?
    3, that’s iran

    forgive me if you’re just being facetious.

    He’s always facetious. Best to ignore trolling.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2254547
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    More like H-6 complement I think. H-6 replacement is likely to be flying wing bomber rumoured to be in development.

    China is clearly betting heavily on its new WS-15 engine.

    I don’t know, if it’s using two WS-15 engines, why not build a strike version of the J-20? This project doesn’t make sense unless they have a power plant with enough thrust for a bomber in the Backfire class IMHO.

    in reply to: PLAAF – Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2256046
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    Exactly, mack! It looks manned. Maybe some conceptual design of future striker in the same class as Su-34?

    But why not just put big wings on the J-20 like the FB-22 derivative. This totally clean sheet design is not as cost effective, unless it’s in a heavier class with enginesmore powerful than WS-15. Unless the Russians are selling NK-321, I don’t know what options they have though.

    Multirole
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    It’s going to be hilarious when countries waiting for the affordable next gen fighters find out they are even more expensive than the last.

    in reply to: What if: North Vietnam received MiG-23s #2261833
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    There would not have been much chance of surprise introduction of the SA-3 at Khe Sanh or anywhere else. As soon as intel arrived suggesting that the SA-3 was on its way, a programme was begun to move the appropriate jamming pods into the theatre.

    And like the SA-2, the SA-3 would have required time to deploy and prepare for action. First construction on SA-2 sites was detected in early April 1965, but the first sites did not become operational until late July. Even if the N Vietnamese had managed to half that installation time, the US would still have been ready for it.

    But as we all known, the intel about the SA-3 was wrong. The Soviet Union realised that whatever hardware it gave to N Vietnam would end up being copied by China, so did not ship the SA-3.

    They wouldn’t be surprised, but they would still suffer losses. US still lost 55 aircraft to the SA-2 in the two Linebacker operations after a decade of learning how to deal with them.

    in reply to: What if: North Vietnam received MiG-23s #2262488
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    Was the SA-3 of that era significantly more effective than the SA-2? I saw some lethality figures in the 1970s that suggested that the difference was minimal.

    In the summer of 1972, US intelligence believed that the SA-3 was about to be fielded in Vietnam. This could have temporarily increased US combat losses, since the existing jammers were designed to counter the SA-2. The solution was to rush ALQ-119 jamming pods to SE Asia under a programme codenamed �Pacer Granite�, but the SA-3 threat did not materialise.

    Can’t say for sure, but the greater maneuverability combined with unfamiliarity should pose a serious threat. With Khe Sanh I was thinking the NVA would have a SAM they could forward deploy to protect their infantry in the field from B-52s. Laying siege against an American base without air defense was risky business.

    If North Vietnam AF got Mig 23, at best it will only operational 1 sq by 74-75. Won’t get much impact in Vietnam war, but it will made impact when China invade Vietnam in 79.

    The PLAAF didn’t participate in the 79 war, so no Floggers wouldn’t make an impact at all.

    in reply to: What if: North Vietnam received MiG-23s #2263363
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    If the Soviets wanted to mess with Linebacker II with minimal effort, deploying SA-3s would be a better bet. Come to think of it they would’ve made a big difference against the B-52s during the Tet Offensive at Khe Sanh.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2265519
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    3D printing isn’t for speedy work, its for incredible detail and consistency. I can program a cnc cutting table, the 3D process is about 50K times more granular.

    3D printing is too new to say anything definitive, especially when it comes to specialized fabrication of titanium. More likely the Chinese are just using it to replace forging. They never said that thing is the end result of what comes out of printing.

    in reply to: If you could build your own air force #2265529
    Multirole
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    At least 2 suggested Su-35 on page 1

    My bad eyes then.

    in reply to: If you could build your own air force #2265619
    Multirole
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    Surprised no one has mentioned Su-35 yet.

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