Re: Baz’s post 10 – Hercules at Plymouth, February 2000.
Baz, it was interesting reading your account of the actual cause of the broken engine on the ‘Belgian’ aircraft that resulted in the appearance of the Hercules with a replacement. A very embarrassing set of circumstances for the pilot.
It’s now clear to me that on that February evening, after watching the Hercules arrive, the airport worker who told me that the engine damage was caused by a collision, was slightly ‘off beam’. I just hope that he was right regarding its nationality!
Thanks for the clarification. Regards……Paul
Re: Post 1 – Hercules at Plymouth February 2000
Baz, on that dark winters’ evening I was parking my car in the airport car park when I noticed bright lights in the eastern sky which looked a bit different from the landing lights of Plymouth’s familiar Dash 8’s. A few minutes later I watched as the aircraft taxied in from the runway and onto the floodlit apron, just a few yards in front of me. I was very surprised to see that it was a military Hercules.
On entering the terminal I asked a member of staff about the unusual visitor. He advised that it was a Belgian Air Force Hercules bringing in a spare engine for a much smaller visiting Belgian aircraft that had earlier disgraced itself by colliding with another aircraft, or one of the airport buildings. Fortunately no one was injured.
I cannot, of course, verify this, but the explanation did seem logical at the time. It also reminded me of the day many decades before when a huge Blackburn Beverley aircraft of RAF Transport Command arrived for an air show on the then grass only airfield. Such a shame that its all now come to an end.
Regards……Paul
After leaving son at Newquay airport today, I took a short detour to have a quick ‘over the fence’ look at Barry’s garden Spitfire. Within a minute or so of arrival, two large coaches pulled up and the place was suddenly swarming with camera-toting tourists – a quite amazing and unexpected sight on this Boxing Day afternoon.
Some ten minutes later we all returned to our vehicles and resumed our various journey’s allowing peace and tranquility to once again return to Spitfire corner. A very pleasant interlude during an altogether very nice day out in Cornwall.
Regards……Paul
This from todays local ‘Herald’ newspaper.
‘…..the battle to keep it open and operational has been hard fought; not least by protest groups like VIABLE, which put forward well-intentioned but ultimately fruitless arguments in favour of retaining the facility.
Those in favour of hanging on to what many viewed as a vital, essential link might mourn its passing – but the reality is that from Friday it will cease to be a distraction in planning our city’s future transport links. That much has been made clear by the decision to transfer helicopters used by Flag Officer Sea Training from Roborough to Newquay, following Plymouth Flying School to Cornwall, and the end of air ambulances landing at the site.’
‘Yokel’ Council strikes again.
Regards…….Paul
The East African VC10’s certainly looked the part in the steamy heat of RAF Khormaksar, Aden in 1967 where they were regularly seen along with BOAC, BUA and RAF variants. They contrasted sharply with resident pan occupants such as Argosies, Beverley’s, Hunters, Shackletons and DC3’s.
I’ve always admired the type even though it was one of the BUA VC10’s that took me to that dreadful place!
Regards……Paul
Yesterday, whilst having breakfast in the Thistle Hotel at Heathrow, I looked out over thirty five BA aircraft, mostly 747’s and 777’s at their various Terminal 5 stands. This everyday common scene made me think back to that rather special day in 1969 when I and many others waited in anticipation for the very first 747, a Pan Am demonstration flight, to land at the airport.
At that time we were used to the sight of a constant flow of 707’s, 727’s, VC 10’s and Tridents etc. Our first glimpse of this huge new beast approaching with so many dangling legs was a totally different experience. The subsequent landing was also an unforgettable moment as no-one had ever seen anything like it before. As the aircraft taxied around, hundreds of airport workers appeared from all over the place to take a look at the incredible sight. Disappointingly, I think I’m right in saying that a planned afternoon demonstration flight for journalists had to be cancelled because the aircraft went u/s on the ground.
My overriding memory of the day is the sheer bulk of this great blue and white giant standing head and shoulders above everything else in the vicinity. Heathrow would never be the same again!
It is amazing that over forty years later the type still roam the territory.
Breakfast was pretty good too!
Regards …..Paul
In response to the query at post 1 regarding Vulcan XJ781, I can add that whilst at RAF Akrotiri in the mid 1970’s I saw a report (with photos) of said aircraft at Shiraz in Iran after her landing accident. I’m fairly certain that the report stated that the Iranians were content for the ‘written off’ aircraft to remain in situ in their country on the condition that it be demilitarized first. They were of course a friendly nation in those days’.
Consequently, a team was despatched (from Akrotiri I assume) with orders to cut off the last six feet of each wing. Again, I feel fairly sure that the photos I saw showed the aircraft after this rather drastic action. I’m afraid I cannot remember whether specific equipment items were also retrieved during this operation.
Sorry I cannot be more precise and apologies for not responding sooner. Regards…..Paul
Re above post. I agree, the picture does show the aircraft at RAF Fairford when the parking bays at this location were all symmetrical.
With regard to the earlier post concerning the loss of the Britannia in Aden, I had good look at it when the tide went out and it was in a very sorry state although I thought at the time that it was retrievable. It was quite a shock therefore to hear that they intended to blow it up which, of course, they eventually did. From memory, very few passengers were onboard the aircraft and no-one was very seriously injured. One of them, however, was a Judge Advocate General who was flying in to adjudicate at a Khormaksar Court Martial. I seem to recall seeing him in the courtroom some days’ later wrapped in a good few bandages!
Happy days!….maybe not…
Regards…..Paul
Having attended the show on the Sunday I also thought it was a very good and well organised event. The RAF provided their usual excellent Sea King SAR demonstration and it was very stirring to see a Spitfire and Hurricane performing in the Devon skies again. The many ground attractions and stalls complemented the overall event. It must have been an emotional day for any veterans attending.
One slight criticism would be the apparent lack of ready information (data boards or flysheets) about some of the airfield’s interesting history such as the arrival there of President Harry Truman in Air Force I (then known as the ‘Sacred Cow’) and bandleader Glen Miller. I apologise if there were such things available but I certainly didn’t see any myself. I can say that many people around me watching the air display in late afternoon (after being there for several hours) were not aware of these sort of facts until I told them. I do appreciate that this information was contained in books on sale at the local historical group’s display stand but I would guess that only a small percentage of the thousands attending would have bought copies.
Anyway this is not meant to be a complaint and I should quickly reiterate that it was a very entertaining and enjoyable day. The organisers deserve all the thanks they will no doubt receive.
One small final point, the correct spelling of the airfield is HARROWBEER.
Regards……Paul
Reading through this thread has brought back many happy memories of Nimrod trips at St Mawgan in the mid 1970’s, thankfully way before the RAF’s subsequent demise and almost total disappearance from the south-west peninsular. It has also reminded me of a tale I was told by an RAF colleague who was posted to SM just after I left in 1977.
With amusement, he told me that prior to painting a particular Nimrod, engineering staff discovered that the paint was the wrong colour, a fact they quickly reported up through the local chain of command. However, as the details on the paperwork (or labels) was entirely correct and therefore in accordance with then current Nimrod paint specifications, the person in charge was content that it should be used – so it was!
As my memory doesn’t extend to the colour of the paint used or whether the whole aircraft was affected, I rang my ex RAF friend and asked him if he remembered the incident. He said he did, but as it was over 30 years ago, he was sorry that he could not recall any of the specific details. Consequently, I’m afraid that I cannot add anything substantial to the white Nimrod debate. Something to ponder, however?
A very interesting thread. Regards…..Paul
In 1967 top comedians such as Tony Hancock and Harry Secombe were sent out to entertain us at RAF Khormaksar and other Aden bases – it was very good for morale and the shows were much appreciated. Surprisingly, myself and most of my RAF colleagues reckoned that the best one of all was the one most of us couldn’t stand – Bob Monkhouse!
Contrary to expectations he was extremely funny throughout and knew exactly what the troops wanted. A true professional.
Regards…..Paul
In 1967 top comedians such as Tony Hancock and Harry Secombe were sent out to entertain us at RAF Khormaksar and other Aden bases – it was very good for morale and the shows were much appreciated. Surprisingly, myself and most of my RAF colleagues reckoned that the best one of all was the one most of us couldn’t stand – Bob Monkhouse!
Contrary to expectations he was extremely funny throughout and knew exactly what the troops wanted. A true professional.
Regards…..Paul
There was one based at RAF St Mawgan in the summer of 1976 during the filming of part of ‘The Eagle has Landed’. I recall it being flown around the airfield at walking pace by, I think, our Station Commander, Group Captain Harry Archer. Hopefully, it may still be around somewhere.
Regards….Paul
Re: Stacey24b’s post 75.
You asked for a higher resolution copy of the photo I submitted of the Vixen with 22 JSTU staff at Boscombe Down in 1973. (post 74)
I’ve since found another picture which may be better as it was taken a few seconds beforehand when we were all facing the front! (i.e. before some of us began looking with concern to our right as a Buccaneer headed towards us!)
Sorry for its faded appearance and the time taken to respond.
Regards….Paul
Very interesting to learn about the Boscombe Down One Elevens. Although I was stationed there in the early 1970’s I never flew in one. I did however manage a trip when one of them visited St Mawgan in 1976 and I still remember the occasion very well. From the information supplied I assume that I flew in the original one.
Thanks for the memory and best of luck regarding preservation.
Regards…..Paul