The second photo appears to show the interior of a Boulton-Paul Type A turret….which suggests Defiant or Halifax mid-upper.
As to what the hatch is…..gotta confess…dunno!
Hi Peter,
I’ve never associated the Monica installation with Gee.
My copy of the Gee Mk. II A.P. refers to a rod aerial, type 87 or 257, fitted vertically in the fuselage of the aircraft. These were both “whip” aerials. The Halifax III A.P. refers to an aerial type 117, which appears to be another “whip” type.
That said, Boozer and Monica are two devices I know very little about and it’s long been my intention to research them in more detail.
Regards!
682al
And here’s the R.A.F.’s “last” Hampden, scrapped in 1956, I think? Looks like it would have been an easier restoration project than some of the more recently salvaged airframes…
There’s a lot to be found on the net about the bombing of Rabaul in general, and several comments about attempts to “pursuade” the volcano to erupt onto the Japanese occupying forces (this was a method trialled pre-war to halt or alter the course of lava flows), but nothing about the use of British earthquake type bombs.
It just sounds too implausible, given the logistical difficulties of getting the bombs out there, then successfully attaching them to a U.S. bomber in such a way that they could be aimed and released. What about dropping trials, training of the crews etc, all with just two bombs?
It would have been such an elaborate and epic scheme that we would have heard about it before now, surely?
Nah, a myth. Someone has read about attempts to create an earthquake effect to provoke an eruption and has assumed that this involves the use of earthquake type bombs.
Doesn’t sound very likely. Upkeep was in development late 1942/3, Tallboy was introduced in 1944 and Grand Slam in 1945, iirc. Doesn’t fit the time scale outlined above?
Sounds more like the plot of a fictional story to me!
682al is that Mike Cookmans cockpit you posted the piccie of? If so it is JR505 now residing in Coventry (or was a couple of years back)
Hi TonyD,
None of those sections survived into preservation as far as I’m aware. They were in the back of a scrapyard, long since cleared and re-developed.
My pal and I found several Typhoon/Tempest control columns and throttle boxes in our favourite local scrapyard during the ’80’s. Sadly, the last remains in that yard were cleared away about fifteen years ago. Ahhh, I remember it like it were yesterday…
Hi Cees,
Don’t take this as gospel, but I’ve a feeling that there was a standard seat designed to a S.B.A.C. specification which was used in a lot of early postwar British aircraft, such as the pre-ejector seat Vampire and Meteor, as well as other types such as Provost, etc. It was moulded from paxolin or some such material and looks very similar to the Spitfire type. Maybe the French adopted it for their Magister?
Regards,
Al
Low value heavy steel tubes in the cockpit area attached to a full aluminium high value monocoque rear fuselage. Engine – High aluminium content.
Typhoon cockpit sections all seem to have ended up in this state. I’ve posted this pic before but it illustrates the theme. Stockport area, circa late sixties and even barer than the ones in Mark 12’s pic….
As a rule of thumb, I would suggest early Spitfires (I and II as Herbert states and maybe early Mk. V’s), had ASI’s reading to 400 m.p.h. Then, all subsequent Spitfires had the 480 m.p.h. gauge, unless this was replaced by a 420 knot version, e.g. any late war/early post war Griffon or Merlin engined variety. This would have been done at the point when the R.A.F. standardised on Knots for all it’s types. Anyone know exactly when this was?
Seafires, like all F.A.A. aircraft, used Knots from Day 1.
As to what today’s rebuilt Spitfire uses, I guess it is down to availability and customer preference, unless the C.A.A. have rules about this sort of thing?
Yes to Mike’s suggestion and just a wild guess that they might be Anson?
My chum and I have the main instrument panel from G-ALUN in our collection.
We rescued it circa 1982 from a Manchester scrapyard. Actually, we’d found it some years before and ignored it as we couldn’t work out what aircraft it was from. Our best bet at the time was some kind of boring helicopter!
We picked it up eventually and almost forgot about it at the back of the garage. Then, some years later, I was scanning through Roy Bonsor’s scrapbook of cockpit photo references and there it was.
It’s now in terrible condition, but we hope to acquire all the missing instruments and switches etc, then we’ll attempt a proper restoration. We displayed it at CockpitFest 2003 and a photo of it and some of our other panels can be found at the web-site of the International Cockpit Club…
http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/festphotoreview03.htm
This was it in it’s glory days…
Regards!
Hi Texantomcat,
I’ve never seen a cockpit photo of a British Mustang with a Dunlop type spade grip. They always seem to have the U.S. moulded stick type.
Also, the American stick features an electric trigger for the gun firing mechanism, whereas your description of the spade grip suggests it has a pneumatic gun button. Perhaps if someone could advise whether the guns in British Mustangs were fired pneumatically, we would have a bit of a clue?
Regards,
682al
p.s. As a result of a p.m. from David Collins, I’m beginning to doubt that the AH8272 spade grip would have been intended for the Sea Hornet, after all. I’ve checked my original notes, which came direct from Dunlops, and have noticed a “?” against Sea Hornet. Thinking about it, the Sea Hornet would surely have had the same stick-type column as the Hornet, which is not unlike that of the Mosquito. Sorry for the confusion, I will alter my spreadsheet right away!
Brake lever?
Firefly, Firebrand or Sea Hornet, according to my notes!
Regards,
Al
Hi Peter,
That’s a tough one.
1930’s rather than ’40’s, I’d say. North American (not necessarily the firm), light aircraft, non-military. Maybe an open cockpit, judging by the glass screen protecting the instruments?
Could be one of dozens of types.
Are all the instruments made by the same company? If so, I’m tempted to suggest it might be an “after-market” panel, one that could be fitted by the home owner. Maybe not a universal panel as the position of the four fixing brackets appears to have been done with one type in mind.
Just a few thoughts, hope someone with a more intimate knowledge of pre-war american stuff will turn up.
Regards,
Al