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August 17, 2004 at 9:52 pm in reply to: Stringbag #1617124

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RAF Swordfish…

I saw the RAFs example in store earlier this year…it still had the hood attached to it. The curator did tell me that when it is restored it may well have the hood removed as it is not representative of service in the UK!!!

August 17, 2004 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Typhoon heaven(old thread 2004) #1788376

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Typhoon Cockpit…

The only relatively complete Car Door type Typhoon cockpit section that I am aware survives is with the Gloucester Aviation Musuem. This was recovered from Flowers Scrap Yard…does this sound familiar? If it is the same one then the cowlings and control grip were all removed before the museum took ownership.

All other ‘complete’ cockpit structures are sliding hood Typhoons.

August 17, 2004 at 12:10 pm in reply to: Merlin engine rumour #1788395

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BMW and Cowley plant…

Cowley was also used to repair Typhoons, Albermarles & midget subs (or was being geared up to do that at some point). During the process sets of drawings for these items were given to them on glass plate. Being a Typhoon nut I obviously followed this one up. Turns out that these were supposed to be part of the ‘heritage’ collection which were not included in the sale and would be sent to Gaydon. They were expecting them soon after the sale. According to Gaydon BMW then reneged on the deal and kept them!!! I have tried to contact Cowley to find out information, as I have been trying for years to get Typhoon drawings, and all I have been able to find out is that Kodak have been contracted to look after the archives.

Reading some of the points made in this thread…are these drawings in danger? (when it comes down to it the British public paid for these drawings) Does anyone know who I can contact to try and locate them? Has anyone seen them?

As a last resort…has anyone come across drawings for Hawker (Typhoon/Tempest or Hurricane)? Anyone know someone? Its been 5 years and I still haven’t found many!!!

August 17, 2004 at 8:21 am in reply to: TYPHOON #1788606

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Picture Source…

Snapper,

The picture of PR-H has been published in Typhoon and Tempest at War by Arthur Reed and Roland Beaumont (page 66). As there are many pics of 609 squadron aircraft I am assuming that they may have been from Bea’s own collection (or that of colleagues).

Dave

August 16, 2004 at 8:13 am in reply to: TYPHOON #1789264

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Jagan…IDs

You are right about the aircraft with the extended rocket rails…Tempest V. The aircraft taxying through the water is a Typhoon (thick wing). The rare aircraft is the Tornado…ID’d because of the double row of exhausts for the RR Vulture engine (the first prototype P5223)

Dave

July 26, 2004 at 6:05 pm in reply to: WWII aircraft and asbestos #1827814

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Asbestos…

Elliott,

Wasn’t asbestos used in the firewalls of single engined aircraft? I know that the firewall in the Typhoon contains asbestos material.

Dave

July 25, 2004 at 8:06 pm in reply to: Hawker Typhoon parts. #1828735

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Rebuilt Tiffies…

With the exception of wings (which would be relatively simple) there are enough parts in existence to recreate an original Typhoon, there are even a number of engines which could be rebuilt. The problem comes with the ‘collectors’ who are not interested in pooling their parts to make a whole aircraft.

July 21, 2004 at 2:02 pm in reply to: The Last Complete Tiffy. #1552204

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Sabres…

Sabres were rushed into manufacture without the luxury of the rigorous testing the Merlin had. Given a complete test routine then the Sabre would have entered production with reliability that was at least the match of the Merlin. Such was the need at the time there was no choice. By the end of the war Sabres were run to 50 hours before check (what were other engines at this stage?). They were of course used in Tempests right into the 1950s!!

As for the CAA…if you are involved with them then you may well know that they are not as bad as they are made out to be. All they ask is that you work with them every step of the way. If you go to them and say that you have just finished building your plane can you have a certificate please then they are going to get you to pull things apart to look at them!!! Back to a Sabre powered aircraft…why would it not be allowed to fly? Many people I have spoken to have said that as long as you do things correctly then they will have no reason to stop you flying it. One of the reasons people quote for not letting a Sabre engined aircraft fly is its early failure rate. I could be corrected here but I believe failure while on operations is not counted in the CAA statistics therefore failure during testing and in peace time was a low as Merlins, I believe that those still fly 🙂 You also have to look at the life that they had at the beginning, flying flat out to catch the 190s and later the V1s which must have ‘hurt’ the engine.

I would love to be able to work with the CAA to get a working Sabre, unfortunately I have been trying for the last 6 years to find a Sabre suitable to rebuild and have failed…anyone know where I can find a decent one (that is available)? 🙂

July 19, 2004 at 11:47 pm in reply to: Tiffie at Fairford #1553511

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Tiffie…

If the link in the message above is the Tiffie you saw then this was completed by Roger Marley based in Shropshire. He has taken the last 8 years to do this completing the cockpit mainly in genuine parts. My experience in my dealings with Roger have been very good…spent hours at his place just talking Tiffies!! Last I saw it he had just fabricated the rear fuselage so to have ‘formed’ the tail is quite a feat, after all no-one has any access to any original drawings or tails to copy!!!

July 17, 2004 at 10:10 pm in reply to: Hawker Typhoon parts. #1554874

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Typhoon Projects

To my knowlege there are at least 10 Typhoon cockpit projects in the UK at present (inc the cockpit at Duxford and Roger Marleys). Some are more complete than others and some are more accurate than others but all are doing their part to remember this rare aircraft

March 22, 2004 at 4:04 pm in reply to: French Local Papers… #1831672

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Thanks

Thanks for the replies…

March 8, 2004 at 6:13 pm in reply to: FAO Snapper…re:609 Typhoon #1561719

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Thanks for the reply etterick40. I did a search for Bayeux museums and the tourism web site lists a number of musuems around the area. I have seem a recovered Napier Sabre museum at Arromanches…is this the musuem you mean or is there another around the area that has the remains?

Thanks
Dave

March 6, 2004 at 9:06 pm in reply to: FAO Snapper…re:609 Typhoon #1562632

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Snapper,

I would be interested to find out the dates that his aircraft was found…but don’t worry too much if it is a pain. Was it a local French paper or did the story make it back to the UK?

Apart from the very safe RPs how much of Roelandts Typhoon survived? is the footage with 609 archives?

March 5, 2004 at 6:51 pm in reply to: FAO Snapper…re:609 Typhoon #1563038

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re: 609 Typhoon

Thats the basis of the information that I have…ex 609 members obviously kept in touch after the war if they knew this information but I was wondering if it was known when his mother re-visited Dunkirk? Where is he buried? Were the remains of the aircraft left after they retrieved his body?

February 24, 2004 at 9:06 am in reply to: Hurricane project anyone…? #1603483

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Hurricane…

I went there at the end of last year to buy some Typhoon parts that he happened to have. They seem to have made very good progress. The centre section, fuselage etc basically complete (and it seems to a very good quality work). They were working on a Merlin at the back of the workshop when I was there and it didn’t look crash damaged to me…although I think they have more than one. They have a number of tail sections and they also have at least one other centre section sitting in the workshop!!! I believe that they have an early set of wings that are at another location ready to be mated to the fuselage but they need to move it before these can be attached…
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