Having studied drawings, manuals etc for the Hawker Family I have found that even the data plates had a drawing number. These indicated where the plate was to be located, the layout, what was to go on it, what font etc etc. I could obviously be wrong but I am sure that 41H 68118 for the Hawker Hind, for instance, is simply the drawing number for the data plate (68118) in the Hawker Family (41H). 68118 fits nicely into the range of drawings that I have for the bi-planes and in particular the Hind (the Tornado & Typhoon starting around the 99000 mark).

Mark,
Any chance you could message me if you get a few minutes (think your box is full)?
Cheers
Dave

I normally don’t contribute to threads such as these but I just had to add my bit….

For the past 13 years I have gone to the Air Tattoo with a group of friends and spent the weekend however; this year I wanted to go to Legends (I am a piston engine lover not particularly jet) and now my son is 4 he is starting to really appreciate the aircraft. We were there Saturday this year and combined with the fantastic weather, the absolutely incredible aircraft, pilots, ground crew and staff I thought the commentry was excellent. My son (and my father) found his commentry informative and it lead to my son asking questions that he would not necessarily have asked. A previous comment said it drowned out the sound of the engines…really? must have been stood under the speakers then because when the aircraft came by it definitely drowned out the commentry from where we were.

Compared to the likes of Cosford then entry was particularly easy (park and ride) with the longest wait being for the bus at the end which was only 30 minutes (although with a tired 4 year old it felt like 40 hours 🙂 ). My only criticism of the whole day was the endless corporate or gold pass tents….there was not enough space for us normal people so the tents were in the way for the low flypasts. We later moved to the end by the Dak and Bearcat, sat on the grass and had a fantastic view. It allowed us to see the lovely Dak and Hawkers (I have a bias to anything Hawker) start up and taxi out…plus most of the aircraft taxiied by when they landed (my sons favourite being ‘Snafu’ which had him very excited when the pilot waved ‘to him’).

Overall I would like to buck the trend and say well done to the commentry…and overall well done to everyone involved in Legends, what a fantasticly well organised show.

Nils? would that be reference to a museum, area or person? Did you take that pic yourself? It is an interesting engine as it does look like a crash landing recovery, the tubes on the lower half of the engine frame look to have been replaced presumably because it needed to safely support the weight. Fairly undamaged but I wonder if any of the ancilliaries survived anywhere…

Good vibs….
Thanks for finding some more information for me…I would love to hear from anyone who may know what happened to the engine as it is on my list as a question mark (there have been quite a few that have been logged a separate survivors over the years but are in fact one in the same). Sadly I could tell the frame it was mounted on was a Tempest from the spar attachment points, does that mean I have been a Typhoon nut for too long?, so unless they found original engine/cockpit mounts and placed a Typhoon Sabre on it then it must have been Tempest. Would love to see the pics if you find them.

The fuselage you mention at Twenthe is my fuselage…the museum closed some years ago and the owners had it on long term loan at Fort Veldhuis, as mentioned before it is well worth a trip there as you would spend hours examining the recoveries and the detailed research they have completed there!!! you also get to see Cees’ work on Halifax and Hampden.

note: The sectioned Sabre at Duxford was donated from Cambridge Engineering Department…I believe it came from Napiers and was unfortunately sectioned by the engineering department.

There are definitely enough parts out there for another example….the wings are the easy part and all the difficult ones I know locations!! I even saw some front main wing spar girders for a typhoon the other week….
I would live to pair the cockpit at duxford with the fuselage…not sure they would let it go though 🙁