Brazilian Government eyes and attention is slowly moving to the Atlantic (a key global stegic throughfare) specialy with many portuguese speaking countries in Africa and oil and other mineral deposits being discovered after the end of the civil war cycle tha followed independences in this continent…

This is the image representing a possible Brazilian Navy sttegical vision for the next decades. I saw it in the hands of one of our Admirals some time ago… “We should be watching the whole atlantic not just ths Southern portion”… We haven’t gotten there yet but we may need to in the near future.http://www.alide.com.br/teste/Atlantic.jpg

Sorry to drop by like this… but is there any recent news on what aircraft the PLAAN would use on its future aircraft carriers? Su-33? MiG-29K? Or better, some locally produced fighter’s naval derivative… JH-7, J-10, FC-1?

On another thread we were discussing how each year the aircraft options for nations operating mid-sized aircraft carriers are getting bleaker and bleaker. Probably the Chinese navy is the only force that could change this dismal scenario…

If this has been discussed before to exaustion please forgive my interruption and please point me where the thread lies.. 🙂

Best Regards.

Hammer

I’m clinging to my fantasy. 😉 If you want a real carrier force, buy the USS America for $1 and put our old F-14s and A-7Es on it. Unfortunatly, all the A-6Es are gone now.

But Rocky this exactly our conundrum right now:

a) Go the USNavy way with mega carriers (and let the country go broke in three years… 😉 )
b) Build (or buy) used medium sized CVs such as the Foch and Gorshkov,
and figure a way to get a full range of aircraft compatible with it… It seems to be getting harder and harder every day. As older generation USNavy aircraft are sent to the desert or to the bottom of the sea…

I wonder what the chinese may offer in the near future to the world of medium carrier compatible aircraft? Navalized FC-1? ort J-10? What anbout the tanker, Awacs, COD, ASW and EW roles?

Comments?

Hammer

Brazilian Strategic priorities in the XXI Century

dan_pub your reasoning is correct but from te history of the last century alone we must understand that world political relevance is a sum of strategic, economic and military components. Brazil has spent the last 100 years in je shadow of the US giant, this state of things puts a lot o pressure on those that defend a powerful and independent national military machine. Their logic is: “there is no reason to invest in military capacity because the americans will always protect us”… Our problem is that we spend our resources poorly over 80% of it goes to salaries and pensions, hardly a viable military deterrent…

Our relation with our neighbors is the best its been in the best state in decades, commerce is the best cement to bring countries together and internal South American trade is growing steadily these days.

Brazilian Government eyes and attention is slowly moving to the Atlantic (a key global stegic throughfare) specialy with many portuguese speaking countries in Africa and oil and other mineral deposits being discovered after the end of the civil war cycle tha followed independences in this continent…

I believe this is why Brazil needs long range aviation and a viable blue seas navy in the coming years specialy if the US is kept busy elswhere… What i’m proposing is not anything new it’s just what the US did in the early and mid 20th century…

If it worked once…

Regards

Hammer

Any unhindered hegemonic power is a scary concept. The amount of power concentrated today in US hands is being used by the “smart few” as a god given proof of deserved global mandate for imposing the Pax Americana upon all other nations and peoples. This was the acceptable norm during the roman, napoleonic and Victorian times, not today. “Negotiation” is a last resource to the hegemonic ruler, and it will only happens after “imposition” and “military domination”.

The “War on Terror” as it is mow is no more than an empty shell, it is like a doctor fighting the symptoms and refusing to address the root causes. Iran is still in the hand of the hard-linerd due to the US aggresiveness towards Iran. If the US government had let “bygones be bygones” and started to boost commerce with the Iranians after the 1979 revolution things would be in a VERY DIFFERENT STATE IN THAT REGION.

Why did Russians and Spaniards support Bush’s call for a global war on terrorism from day one, because the wanted to have a free hand in disposing with their own internal separatist conundrums without having to fear an US led Human Rights focured pressure.

I suppose from our non-US perspective the most annoying thing is this governments blind eye to the “friendly dictatorships”: why didn’t Bush start his reform of middle east by replacing the Saudi Monarchs? It was just bad for business.

This is not a morality issue it is just how do we make the most money in the shortest time, even if this strategy destroys the US in the long run.

Too bad…

Regards

Hammer