It all depends on the potential targets for the F.3. In most cases it would be Warsaw Pact strike planes such as Su-20, Su-25 and Su-24, and of course, Tu-22M. I don’t think high-altitude performance would needed against such targets. MiG-25RB might be a different situation.
Did the American pilots detect the radio emissions from the MiG-25s’ radar on their EW sensors? That would one way to determine which type of Foxbat they were. Does they USAF continue to describe the 2 MiG-25s as PDs?
Damage to a USAF F-15 after been hit by a ‘friendly’ AIM-9 Sidewinder.
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I agree fighters not designed for supercruise like the F-35 will run out of fuel quickly when going supersonic ……the F-135 engine the f-35 uses is not designed for supercruise……the point being much is made of the 8 tons of internal fuel carried by the F-35……unfortunately that doesn’t help because of the F-35’s fuel fraction…….difference classes but the fuel fraction of the F-22 is 29%…MiG-31’s is over 45%….
The fuel fraction of the F-35 and the MiG-31 are around the same – approx 40%. What has the MiG-31 got to do with Belgium’s future fighter purchases?
Edit: sorry, yes MiG-31 could be 45%.
All fighter jets usually go bingo after 150 miles supersonic flight surely – unless you’re carrying 11 tons of internal fuel like the Su-35?
It seems that Belgium will buy F-35s later rather than sooner then…
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es, because one interceptor network around Moscow is the same as locations in Alaska, Eastern Europe, and all across the world on Aegis cruisers.
This has to be one of the most willfully ignorant positions of all time.
Notice I didn’t say US ballistic missile forces, but US nuclear forces combined which includes cruise missiles and B61 gravity bombs dropped by tactical aircraft. As it happens, Russia probably has a greater number of anti-ballistic missiles in service S-300V, S-400 and S-500 coming online – not sure how effective the first 2 missiles are against US ICBMs. But the Russian air-defence missile forces certainly has the massive advantage when fighting against nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and gravity dropped nukes. The US air-defences don’t really compare against Russia’s entire collection of SAMs – Russia has thousands of them.
1. The US has an existing and ongoing missile defense program.
So has the Russian Federation.
2. Even though the shield is currently only effective at best against a small number of rudimentary ICBMs, the technology will continue to improve.
The same can be said for Russia’s ‘shield’.
The Russian Federation is probably better armed to defend itself against the entire US nuclear forces combined compared to compared to America’s defences against the Russian Federation, you do realise that?
See Madrat’s post.
You were actually referring to this post? Ok.
The hypersonic missile is tactically irrelevant on any scale beyond small niche work. You’re honestly going to lob one missile per sortie while the enemy is dropping a dozen glide bombs with precision per sortie. It makes about as much sense as their giant land-based cruise missiles being launched at Syria from within Russia. Sure they are big and scary, but they did virtually nothing in effect.
Comparing Kinzhal to glide bombs? Seriously?
MGM-140 ATACMS is not a glide bomb – it’s something in the same category as Iskander, except smaller and with less range.
Launching ballistic missiles from supersonic aircraft – it was already done 60 years ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Virgo
As a SEAD weapon against ground based systems its much the same story. A THAAD or Patriot battery is a sitting duck and compared to the cost of the SAMs this thing is dirt cheap
In which case you could consider the S-300,S-400 and S-500 as sitting ducks as well? An air-launched version of the MGM-140 ATACMS could do the trick – dirt cheap as well.
At the least this should be the next interation from X-32M and certainly they would be carried beyond Mig-31 , likely Tu-22M3M and Su-34 the range of 2000 plus km is phenomenal but even using it at 1000 km range aginst moving targets and it can trade off its excess energy with shaped trajectory and agianst stationary target it can use the full range
Who seriously believes it has a 2,000 km range – just because Putin says so in a glorified Powerpoint presentation doesn’t make it true, does it? Especially if its going to be carrying 500 or even 800 kg warhead.
What is the speed of the MiG-31 at launch – up to mach 2.35? Such a speed would certainly act as a sufficient booster stage for increasing range, I guess.
But what kind of flying platform can carry such weapon(Kinzhal) in well equipped western countries?
That’s not a relevant point – other countries possess other means of attacking naval forces – maybe they don’t need Kinzhal.
And to follow up, how many western countries has SM-3 type of missiles for intercept?
Do you even need SM-3, maybe SM-2 or Aster is good enough? That was my original question?
Here in Norway…
Perhaps even RIM-162 ESSM as fitted on Norwegian naval frigates could prove effective?
Kinzhal seems to me to be the sort of weapon system that US, NATO and other well-equipped navies have been arming themselves to combat against for last 3 decades at least? Kinzhal – easy meat for Aster, SM-2, SM-3 type missile?
It was offered to Finland in 1992.
MiG-31 for Finland, wow! I knew that the MiG-29 was offered to the Finns in the 1990s
OP criteria of course didn’t specify export requirement, only that it’s in service…
This rules out F-20, which was available for export and even ordered but didn’t enter service.
Well it’s an irrelevant criteria – F-20 was avaialble to buy in the 1980s – MiG-31 wasn’t.