You’ll need very wide-angle lenses to take a picture of that mouth…
Already a lower flyaway price and most probably operating cost : smaller, smaller engines, less moving parts : fixed refueling probe, fixed intake, no dorsal air brake, longer airframe life span
I always thought the intakes on the Typhoon were fixed as well?:confused:
Longer airframe life? We’ll have to see many years service from both aircraft to make a decision on that one…
Sure, very limited A-G ability. But it was an ability specifically designed into both aircraft from the beginning.
The sole reason why the C-130J sold is because it has been the ONLY serious contender in its class for the past 10 years. It suffers from exactly the same issues as the Il-476 and would almost certainly not have had anything like the same success if the A400M and KC-390 had been available to compete in that period. Like Ilyushin, Lockheed sold it to the USAF as a straightforward upgrade that would be cheap to develop, but delays and cost overruns were significant and might well have killed the project if there had been a viable alternative. Look at the UK: faced with having to chop either the Hercules or the A400M due to spending cuts they went for cutting the former.
Things worked out for LM due to a virtual monopoly, but with the A400M around the corner Ilyushin will not be so lucky. Any sales would be limited to customers with no access to the Airbus and if the An-70 finally makes it into service, even those could be in serious jeopardy.
The only serious contenders that the C-130 ever had in its almost 60 year history were the C-160 Transall and the An-12 (does the Shorts Belfast count, or too big?) The Hercules always outsold its competitors several times over anyway.
The main reason why the C-130 sells so well is because anything bigger would be just too expensive – unless they’ve got an airliner in service for VIP.
The original F-15A/C always had a secondary air-to-ground capability, dumb bombs, rockets, that sort of thing. Even the original MiG-29 ‘9.12’ had an a-to-G capability.
I have no idea what your point is. Do you not agree that the C-17 has been, in recent years, more successful sales-wise than the Il-76?
I never denied that the Il-76 was produced in greater numbers than all the C-141, C-5 and C-17 put together. Nor have I denied that some people in Africa have hired the services of the Il-76, just as they have hired other types as well. Is Africa an important market for Aviation?
I never said the Il-76 was young type either…
I don’t quite understand you? Almost all the military aircraft offered for sale today by all the main world powers have their origins in the Cold war. Most of America’s are so. Virtually all of Russia’s offerings, certainly (Flanker, MiG-35, HIND;HIP, etc).
And the Myasishchev wooden models don’t qualify as ” cold war prototypes” either.
That would be 36 to 48 motors per year – or 18-24 actual aircraft in a year. Sounds like a respectable tempo of production to me? Wouldn’t you expect it to be quite slow in the early months of production? What was the early rate of production for Embraer 145 or Bombardier CRJ?
Also, if you are on a shoe-string budget (and therefore a prime target for Il-76 sales) why would you buy a new one when the used aircraft market is flooded with ex-military and former Aeroflot airframes at rock-bottom prices?
It all depends on how much you really want to utilise the aircraft, I suppose. An Il-96 probably sells for half the price as a B767 – but if you intend to fly the aircraft 1200 cycles and 3,000 flight hours a year, well then operating costs and reliability are paramount.
It depends on who is buying the freighter and how much they intend to operate it. Certainly the Il-76 derivatives will have their market.
Impossible. C-17s only were exported to 5 countries, plus NATO and upcoming Indian order. Together that makes 23 export aircraft + 10 in the pipeline for India. In comparison, even Iran alone has more Il-76s than this number (17 military and 17-18 civilian transports)
Obviously I should have mentioned that the timeframe being referred to is the last decade or so since the C-17 has been available for export. I’m not talking about the Cold War era. The days of cheap new aircraft from the former Soviet Union are over. Let’s not forget the sales figures of C-130Js or the 130 or so A400s ordered: The equipment fit of the Hercules tends to be a bit more sophisticated, which could explain some of the greater price.
The Government of India has requested a possible sale of:
6 Lockheed Martin C-130J United States Air Force (USAF) baseline aircraft including USAF
baseline equipment
4 Rolls Royce AE 2100D3 spare engines
8 AAR-47 Missile Warning Systems (two of them spares)
8 AN/ALR-56M Advanced Radar Warning Receivers (two of them spares)
8 AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing Systems (two of them spares)
8 AAQ-22 Star SAFIRE III Special Operations Suites (two of them spares)
8 ALQ-211 Suite of Integrated Radio Frequency Countermeasures (two of them spares)
2 spare AN/ARC-210 Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio Systems (SINCGARS)
8 spare Secure Voice Very High Frequency/Ultra High Frequency Radios
4 spare Secure Voice High Frequency Radios
3 spare AN/AAR-222 SINCGARS and Key Gen (KV-10) Systems
1 KIV-119 Non-standard Communication/COMSEC equipment
2 ARC-210 Non-standard Communication/COMSEC equipment
http://www.dsca.osd.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2007/India_07-33.pdf
it was the I.A. 37 Ala Delta, Levsha
Thanks. It looks like something out the movies ‘Barbarella’ or ‘Flash Gordon’…:cool:
Nice change.
Here’s another work of a nazi in exile:
What is that thing? Whose is it?:confused:
You should try translating a software manual from German into English…:(
It wasn’t a price comparison.
Why has the C-17 has actually outsold the Il-76 anyway?