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  • in reply to: INS Vikramaditya delayed until 2011! #2044810
    Levsha
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    I should think that the main reason that the Russians have a problem delivering on time and on price is due to the fact that both the Soviet Union and Russia never had the experience in producing large scale one-off projects to the precise and exacting specifications of individual customers who had the necessary wads of cash.
    The Soviet Union produced warships the same way they produced the rest of their military hardware, such as AK-47s, T-55 tanks or MiG-21s – mass produced standardised designs with the minimum amount of variance among production. Think of FOXTROT submarines, Osa FAC, or Kashin destroyers.
    The USSR’s foreign customers had little choice in choosing the specifications of the ships or equipment they ordered from the Soviet Union, variety and choice was the enemy in both military and civilian consumer production – you could have any colour you liked, as long as it was khaki or navy grey.
    Certainly it could be contrasted with Western European “Boutique” shipbuilders, who always had to produce complex multi million dollar projects, such as icebreakers, aircraft carriers and cruise liners, to the customers’ precise requirements. In fact, many of the more specialised large ships of one-off design in Soviet service were actually produced in Western Europe, and certainly the design of the Soviet Union’s own aircraft carriers such as the Kiev or Kuznetsov class were protracted affairs.

    The Indian Navy should have remembered that the Russians had very little experience in producing large combatant warships such as aircraft carriers to customers specifications, a project such as INS Vikramaditya would have taxed even the most experienced shipyard.

    in reply to: Swing-wing extinction? #2504511
    Levsha
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    Back when Brüggen still housed four squadrons of GR1 Tornados, late 1980s/early 1990s? Wasn’t an exception if a single Tor flew two or three sorties a day, for at least a week or longer. Don’t know how this relates to the time spent in deeper maintenance, but when the ground-pounders were ‘on the flightline’, their service rate appeared to be fine.

    F3 service rates always were lower, but that wasn’t an airframe issue. Dodgy systems were to blame.

    Thanks Arthur, I suppose the Tornado, being the last swing wing type to be designed and to enter service possibly profited from the experience of earlier designs, especially the F-111. Perhaps special attention was then spent in designing the Tornado’s swing wing mechanism to improve its reliability??

    My favorite swing wing is by the way the MiG-23.

    Perhaps not so much the MiG-23 but rather the MiG-27 – or even the MiG-23BN. Both of these aircraft must be the fastest tactical strike, CAS aircraft at low level, especially at ingress and egress over the target zone. Certainly this high speed ability was a saving grace of the F-105 ‘Thud’ over Vietnam, and I’m sure the MiG is even faster.
    In this respect it would be interesting to compare the MiG with the Sepecat Jaguar, especially in Indian air force service – how much faster do the Indians find the MiG to be compared to the Jag at low level and with the same weight of stores?

    in reply to: Swing-wing extinction? #2504527
    Levsha
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    That’s one reason an F-14/F-111 was lucky to be able to fly 3 times a week and B-1 maybe twice a week.

    What’s the serviceability and maximum sortie rate record of the Tornado, including the ADV?

    in reply to: Iranian F-14's and Soviets #2504614
    Levsha
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    however i do not trust the webpage you give me, i have found some of those reports bias and pro
    western and many times the reports have not sufficient evidence at least in pictures

    That’s an interesting statement coming from you, when you consider some of the websites you like to ‘borrow’ from! Acig.org may not be perfect and I’m sure there are a few mistakes in it, but it’s still regarded as one of the best sources of reference for aerial warfare.

    Compare it with this particular website which you used as a source:

    http://www.gta.keiby.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=487&pid=14540&st=0&#entry14540

    It is neither an aviation related, nor military related website but some sort of computer gamers fanclub??
    Pretty jingoistic and biased as well…

    in reply to: Serial Production of Tu-160 Bombers? #2504618
    Levsha
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    The little bomber that could(n’t)…

    Atmospheric video footage of a Tu-160 “attempting” to hook up with presumably an Il-78 tanker, taken from the tail turret I guess.:cool: 😎

    http://aviaart.ru/index.php?page=61&id_foto=287&id_project=46&p=7

    The pilot still needs to develop his technique somewhat…

    in reply to: Iranian F-14's and Soviets #2504891
    Levsha
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    Which is twice … no four … no eight times as much as the squareroute of the average lifetime of a Me-262. So what?
    “Lifetime” of a MiG-29 or MiG-21 can be extended if maintained like an average F-15. The very short lifetime of Russian designs is not necessarily a design flaw but more a garantueed service goal. The expert asks which parts are lifetime limited and what were the assumptions for that. For an F-14 that is easy: the swing wing.

    Most of the older Soviet aircraft may indeed have the “airframe lifetimes” comparable to F-4s or F-15s, but it never seems to happen though, does it?
    For example, some RAF Jaguars have retired with up to 6000 hours on the airframe – I’d love to see a Su-17 or MiG-23/27 with that sort of milage…:rolleyes:

    in reply to: DIFFERENT C-17 TAKEOFF #2504973
    Levsha
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    Have you seen the youtubes of it stopping? 😮

    Mighty, mighty impressive!

    Are you referring to the C-130 that landed on the USS Forrestal in the 1960s?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwJJD5jGXk&mode=related&search=c-130%20hercules%20carrier

    Yeah, it was impressive alright. It doesn’t look impractical or dangerous for the Hercules to carry out such landings and it it could at the same time carry a large enough payload, so you’d wonder why the USN weren’t interested in pursuing the technique further?:confused:

    Or maybe it’s testament to the abilities of the pilots that they just make it look so easy (when it probably isn’t).

    in reply to: Anyone speak Russian? #2505031
    Levsha
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    It’s an advertisement for the Russian Ministry of Defence’s own public TV channel ‘TV KANAL ZVEZDA’ (TV Channel STAR) – a sort of broadcast version of the ‘Krasnaya Zvezda’ newspaper, aiming to provide more patriotic material for the discerning Russian viewer. Stuff like ‘3 Tankmen and a Dog’ and ‘Stirlitz’ I guess, along with lots of cool footage of S-400s launching and T-90s splashing through mud, etc, but I’ve never tuned in, here in Moscow, so I’m not sure what it’s like?:confused:

    Here’s its website:

    http://www.tvzvezda.ru/?id=226744

    and more info in English:

    http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/02/749c6f8e-942e-44ad-8323-b5e9bf3dff57.html

    in reply to: F-15, F/A-18 #2505305
    Levsha
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    The F-15 already is an old aircraft, its title as the best fighter has been achieved not too much as a direct result of its technical merits as it is usually claimed.

    For example up to 85% of its claimed kills are third generation fighters, the few targets that count are a few MiG-29s and few MiG-25s, they succeded because they have completly superiority in numbers, fought againts outdated MiG-29s, and never has accepted any losses.

    Wasn’t that Rocky’s point!!:rolleyes:

    The main reason why American 4th generation aircraft had to content with blowing Soviet 2/3 generation aircraft out of the sky during the last decade of the Cold War was because there was no such thing as a Soviet built 4th generation figher to be found anywhere around the world for much of this timeframe!

    Both the F-14 and F-15 were in service ten years ahead of the MiG-31 and Su-27 respectively.

    in reply to: F-15, F/A-18 #2505308
    Levsha
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    Given the atrocious costs of keeping it flying, and the cost of training, it obviously provides a capability the Russian AF is loath to do without.

    That’s what I mean – the cost of operating the FOXHOUND is “atrocious,” even for the Russians, and the MiG-31 hardly ever flew during the 1990s. The Russian AF claims it’s still in service, but I’d love to find out just how many sorties/flight hours are carried out by the type annually?:confused:

    In terms of combat experience, probably. But then that holds true for most non American types.

    Mirage 2000 in the 1999 Kargil war?

    in reply to: F-15, F/A-18 #2505342
    Levsha
    Participant

    Arent you forgetting something?:diablo:

    Possibly the most irrelevant and untested 4th generation aircraft in service at the moment…

    in reply to: Super Hornet #2505490
    Levsha
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    The SH is a fine aircraft

    But the question is ‘Could a new wing make it even better for land-based applications such as what India is envisioning?’

    since it wouldn’t have to make compromises for carrier operations and whatnot

    That’ s a good question, are the Hornets offered to India going to be completely “denavalised”?
    I mean will they enjoy a reduction in airframe weight by not having to carry the extra strengthening and reinforcing needed by shipborne fighters to carry out high energy landings on carrier decks?:confused:

    How much weight could a Super Hornet hope to loose in such a process, 500kg, a 1000kg?:confused:

    in reply to: First flight of X-Wing failed! #2505518
    Levsha
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    And if they ever attempt another test flight – some of the sky pilots in this video would, no doubt, be happy to volunteer…:diablo: 😀

    http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/nerds
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io3W0-3uj8c

    in reply to: Russian Civil Aviation #589026
    Levsha
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    From today’s Moscow Times:

    News

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/09/27/002.html

    Thursday, September 27, 2007. Page 1.

    Dry Ice and Models for Superjet Rollout

    By Anna Smolchenko
    Staff Writer

    Marina Lystseva / Itar-Tass

    Models looking at Sukhoi’s Superjet-100 at its unveiling in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the Far East on Wednesday.

    KOMSOMOLSK-ON-AMUR, Khabarovsk Region — Amid a fanfare of music, dry ice and a bevy of fashion models, First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov on Wednesday unveiled the first Sukhoi Superjet, the long-awaited hope of the civilian aircraft industry.

    The rollout of the midsize plane — the country’s first to be wholly designed in the post-Soviet era — was emotional for many of the aviation workers in the giant aircraft hangar at Sukhoi’s Komsomolsk-on-Amur plant, which until now has only made fighter jets.

    “We have every right to say this is a real super plane,” Ivanov told an invited audience of about 1,000 Russian and foreign executives, engineers, workers and reporters. Many of the guests were flown the 8,000 kilometers and seven time zones from Moscow for the ceremony.

    With the new passenger plane, Sukhoi is entering a midsized jet market dominated by Bombardier of Canada and Embraer of Brazil.

    Malev, the Hungarian airline owned by AiRUnion chief executive Boris Abramovich, is considering buying 15 Superjets and will make a decision in the first half of next year, Abramovich told reporters at the plant Wednesday.

    Sukhoi currently has 73 firm orders for the aircraft, including 30 from Aeroflot, 15 from AiRUnion and 10 from Italian carrier ItAli. Under the most recent agreement, Armenia’s Armavia earlier this month bought two long-range jets in a deal estimated at $55 million to $60 million.

    After Ivanov and other speakers had lauded the project, a large video screen was lifted to reveal the plane amid clouds from dry ice. As the invited guests cheered and applauded, the doors to the hangar slowly opened and the plane — decked out in the red, white and blue of the Russian tricolor and featuring a Sukhoi emblem on its tailfin — was towed out into bright sunshine. Amid a fanfare of sentimental music, some in the audience looked distinctly emotional.

    Ivanov basked in the spotlight of the television cameras as he and other officials came out to touch the plane. “If it’s the Superjet, then everything should be super,” said Ivanov, who has enjoyed blanket coverage in the state media in recent months and is considered to be a leading contender to succeed President Vladimir Putin.

    Ivanov and a small army of senior officials, including Industry and Energy Minister Viktor Khristenko and Rosoboronexport chief Sergei Chemezov, were on hand to witness a key moment for the $1.4 billion Superjet project, which has involved thousands of design engineers as far afield as France, Italy and the United States. Engine production is estimated at another $600 million.

    The ministers were there barely 36 hours after attending the first session of the new Cabinet, chaired by Putin in Moscow.

    The Superjet rollout is widely seen as a landmark for the Russian commercial aviation industry, which all but collapsed after the demise of the Soviet Union.

    Marina Lystseva / Itar-Tass
    The Superjet, the first all-new airliner built since the Soviet collapse in 1991.

    To resuscitate the industry, Putin last year ordered the creation of a state aircraft champion, the United Aircraft Corporation, that encompasses the country’s main jet makers and design bureaus.

    On Wednesday, Ivanov said the Superjet was a “priority product in the strategic lineup” of the corporation.

    In a sign of further expansion, the corporation is in talks to buy VTB’s 5 percent stake in EADS, the parent company of European plane manufacturer Airbus, United Aircraft chief executive Alexei Fyodorov told reporters on the sidelines of Wednesday’s rollout. The corporation would seek to raise financing for the stake, which VTB bought last year for about 1 billion euros ($1.4 billion).

    Sukhoi general director Mikhail Pogosyan said his company had to wrestle with skepticism that the fighter-jet maker could pull off a commercial project. Sukhoi first began work on the project for a midsize regional jet in 2001.

    Mikhail Simonov, Sukhoi’s veteran chief designer, who spearheaded the creation of the country’s best fighter jets, said it was good that military production was giving way to commercial aviation.

    “This means we are in line with the economic course,” said Simonov, 77, who had a Hero of Russia medal pinned to his chest.

    Sukhoi’s two main Superjet partners are Italy’s Alenia Aeronautica, which has 25 percent plus one share in the project and will help promote the plane in the West, and France’s Snecma, which together with NPO Saturn is making a SaM-146 engine for the jet. U.S. airplane giant Boeing is a consultant on the project.

    Scott Carson, chief executive at Boeing Commercial Airplanes, said in a videotaped message relayed on the video screen that the new jet “represents hard work and sheer determination of so many people.”

    “Aviation is critical to Russia’s future,” Carson said.

    More than 30 international subcontractors, including Thales, Liebherr and Goodrich, are working with Sukhoi on the jet. Giorgio Zappa, chief executive of Finmeccanica, Alenia’s parent company, praised the jet as a “pillar of [our] future cooperation.”

    The plane will be about 50 percent Russian-made and 50 percent foreign-made, Pogosyan told reporters at the plant Tuesday.

    Around the Soviet-era aerospace plant, known by its Russian acronym as KnAAPO, stand vintage planes and Su-27 fighter jets, which are on duty to patrol the Tatar Straight separating Sakhalin island from the mainland.

    The new plane promises to be a shot in the arm for Komsomolsk, a city of 280,000 people 300 kilometers from the Chinese border.

    The plant currently provides work for 14,000 people, paying an average monthly salary of 16,000 rubles ($650). It expects to hire another 6,500 workers by 2010, when production of the Superjet should be in full swing.

    The city currently does not have a direct air connection with most of the country, and Sukhoi is negotiating with several air carriers to start the flights, a company representative said.

    To get about 100 reporters to the ceremony, Sukhoi had to charter a plane to fly them out to the air base at Komsomolsk. There, company officials briefly showed off the plant that it touts as its best production facility.

    “This is where we will realize all our plans,” Pogosyan said. “I believe that this is the best plant in the country.”

    By contrast, the situation was so dire at one of Sukhoi’s other plants that birds at one point made nests in its workshops, a company spokesman said.

    In the tough transition to a market economy, the Komsomolsk plant also wrestled with difficulties.

    One of its workshops made children’s bicycles to sell to Cuba and Poland in the late 1980s and early 1990s, said Alexander Shcheglov, head of aggregate assembly at the plant. Today that shop makes fuselages and wings for the new jet, and its concrete floors have been lacquered to gather less dust.

    Symbolizing the new direction, a slogan on a wall now reads, “SSJ manufacturing is where new decisions meet the challenges of tomorrow.”

    Shcheglov said the plant aimed to assemble four jets by year’s end and another 14 next year. To start conveyor production, the plant needs more equipment, he said.

    “A very powerful base is needed,” Shcheglov said. “It’s just being formed now.”

    Because the plant also needs to cover the cost of equipment upgrades, it will effectively have to produce every 10th jet for free, he said.

    The ultimate goal is to produce fighter and passenger jets in equal numbers. “We aim for 50-50. [But] time will tell,” Shcheglov said.

    However emotional the rollout is, it is the first flight that really matters, aircraft analysts and plant employees said.

    “It’s too early to celebrate a victory,” Alexei Komarov, a former aviation engineer who worked at Sukhoi from 1977 to 1995, said by telephone. The rollout means that the plane is almost ready, but it is the first flight that is usually considered the plane’s birthday, said Komarov, who is now chairman of the editorial board at Moscow-based magazine Air Transport Observer.

    Grigory Alexeyenko, deputy head of technical control at the plant, sounded a similar note of caution. “When it takes off, then we’ll be proud,” he said, adding that the plane still required a lot of work.

    Sukhoi hopes to receive permission for the plane’s first flight in the next two months.

    Konstantin Makiyenko, deputy director of the Russian Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said it was not surprising that the project cost so much, especially if expensive promotions like Wednesday’s unveiling are taken into account.

    He estimated the total spending on the ceremony, including charter flights, room and board for officials, reporters and dozens of fashion models dressed as flight attendants, at $1.5 million. Sukhoi deputy director Vadim Razumovsky declined to disclose the cost of the event.

    The Sukhoi Superjet-100 family comprises four aircraft of 75- and 95-seater planes. The catalog price of a 95-seater is $28.3 million.

    At Wednesday’s ceremony, Aeroflot general director Valery Okulov said the airline had already earmarked funds to buy its 15 Superjets.

    Aeroflot is scheduled to receive its first Superjet in November 2008.

    By year’s end, Sukhoi hopes to notch up 100 orders for the plane.

    By that time, it plans to sign the first agreement with a country “close to southeast Asia,” a priority market, said Dmitry Matsenov, senior vice president for strategic development at Sukhoi.

    Under the best-case scenario, the company hopes to produce 1,800 jets, including VIP and cargo versions, he said. A VIP version would sell for $40 million and is currently being developed, said Matsenov, adding that the first orders could come from within Russia.

    © Copyright 2007 The Moscow Times. All rights reserved.

    ll-62 a mirror of the VC10….Tu204 similar to the757…coincidence or reverse engineering??

    You can’t tell the difference between a VC-10 and an Il-62? :confused: 😮
    Are you able to tell the difference between a B707/DC-8/Convair 880, because those last 3 aircraft probably have more in common with each other, appearance wise, than the VC-10 has with the Il-62, but nobody ever accused the American companies of copying from each other.:rolleyes:

    And if the Soviets had decided to pod all 4 engines under the wings, which of those 3 American airliners mentioned above would they then have been accused of copying…:rolleyes:

    In the Soviets case; damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

    in reply to: Columbian(?) T-27 whacks drug-running plane #2510686
    Levsha
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    indeed that is an AT-27 tucano.. not from FAC but from Fuerza Aerea Peruana (FAP)… their accent is the clue.. 😉

    regards.-

    Alberto

    I wasn’t sure which country we were dealing with here, which was why I included the question mark in the title, but I thought someone from south America might be able to recognise the accents – do all the countries of South America from very distinct accents?:confused:

    But seriously, I was reminded of the thread of a few months back concerning the Tamil Tigers’ ‘Zlin’ makeshift bombers, and how the Sri Lankan air force could deal with them – this appears to be the most cost effective way of going about it. I presume the King Airs had a role to play by actually detecting the druggies plane first – but I wonder how. Is there some sort of air search radar fitted on to the DEA’s King Airs?:confused:

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