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Levsha

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    Can and has.

    3-6039 was the F-14A used to shot down an Iraqi Mirage F.1EQ on 20 February 1987 by a single AIM-54A from a range of almost 150km. The Iraqi pilot, 1st Lt. Ahlan, did not survive the hit.

    150 kms out? I doubt it. I would love to know how exactly that kill was confirmed? Lt Ahlan seems to have had very good eyesight?

    Levsha
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    Not a problem. Design. A fighter with RWR will turn to through the missile off. A bomber perhaps not so quick to react or not so able to turn.
    Also a lot more massive target for the missile’s sensors.

    Well, saying that the RWR will be useful in defending the aircraft against any kind of radar guided weapon sounds over simplistic. Would the RWR help provide ample warninfg against an AIM-120 or S-300 type missile? If the fighter jet has to ditch its warload in order to make evasive action – it could be considered a tactical kill for the Phoenix or any other large missile?

    Levsha
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    They can, but the firing position is different, their guidance is different. Don’t know a lot about these SAMs, especially the Hawks, which surprisingly enough I have seen up close more times than I could count.

    I think the phoenix has a proximity fuse, but perhaps not fine tuned enough for a small target.

    I’ve never heard of any problems with the proximity fuse on the Phoenix – I’m sure it would have been updated on the C version in the 1980s?

    Levsha
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    Yes, but the phoenix would probably never hit a fighter sized plane at those distances. It was meant to protect the fleet from nuclear bombers.

    Wouldn’t it depend more on how the target was maneuvering rather than its actual size? Missiles as big as a Hawk or SA-6 Kub can hit ‘fighter sized’ targets, why not the AIM-54?

    Levsha
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    Yes, nonetheless people still give the F-14 a longer reach than other fighters because of it.

    And as far as use, I vaguely remember not seeing F-14s carrying the phoenix at all from the mid 90’s on. did not have internet back then and relied on magazines though so I could be wrong.

    Yeah, scratch that, I found a photo (wikipedia nonetheless) that shows a phoenix on a tomcat in 2003.

    Didn’t the F-14 have a longer reach with the Phoenix missile, outside the R-33 armed MiG-31 in the RF?

    Levsha
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    During the air war we know they only faced North Vietnamese flyers (some were quite experienced by the end of Rolling Thunder – were beating the USAF 5:1 at this point) and the Soviet based IADS was still very effective even up to the start of Linebacker II .

    Where did you get that figure – at what particular point? Would have thought it was close to the other way round?

    Levsha
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    Well, don’t ask me that.. It was a claim made directly by the Israeli F-4 crews that the Soviets were inexperienced and didn’t know how to handle the aircraft in a combat situation.. Don’t be lazy and read it up before posting..

    I don’t have to do my own research to back up your claims – anyway how would the Israeli pilots know what sort of experience level the Soviet pilots were compared to other Soviet pilots. My personal theory for the Soviets’ alleged lack of WVR dogfighting skills – they were PVO pilots – trained to shoot down B-52s and B-58s over the USSR, dogfighting skills not needed?

    Levsha
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    That was a nicely prepared trap and a great success. But I’d attribute the outcome to piloting skills and moment of surprise rather than aircraft performance, Israelis have selectively chose their most skilled pilots versus relatively inexperienced Soviets.

    Why would the Soviets send inexperienced pilots to Egypt in 1970, it was actually a very important mission set for them? I think the last thing people attribute the Israelis’ success to are the aircrafts’ performance and capabilities.

    Levsha
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    It is good to see that Richard Ward’s paper has remained in the public domain, and is still finding readers.

    He expressed two concerns to me shortly after it was completed. One was that it might be retrospectively classified, and thus taken out of wide circulation. The other was that some readers might understand it, and see it as a call for the US to adopt the Soviet approach to aircraft design rather than an indication that there were viable alternatives to some aspects of the US approach.

    GD artists did a couple of full-colour drawings of conceptual next-generation Soviet fighters for Ward, but I cannot remember if these were included in his paper. I have long mislaid mine, but if anyone (such as LowObservable) has copies, it might be amusing to post them.

    Is this the document you’re looking for?

    https://de.scribd.com/doc/298950019/FIGHTER-DESIGN-From-Soviet-Perspective

    I can’t imagine there was any real danger of it being classified – surely most of the information contained in it was common knowledge anyway?

    Levsha
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    Given its short range, it would be surprising. Wasn’t it used almost exclusively as a Frontal Aviation point-defense fighter (except a bis variant which saw some service in the PVO)?

    Well, maybe it was not developed as a purely PVO interceptor, but I think some MiG-21s were delivered to the PVO from the very beginning of its service?
    BTW the Su-9 and Su-11 were notorious for their poor operational range as well – possibly no better than the MiG-21?

    Levsha
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    I was not getting into that. I’m just responding to your MiG-21 comparison and pointing out that the Su-11 was a bomber interceptor so it had a different set of requirements to fulfill compared to the contemporary MiG-21 (like longer range, bigger radar set, longer ranged BVR weapons, etc.).

    I’m almost sure that the MiG-21 was originally developed as a PVO ‘bomber interceptor’ in the 1950s as well.

    Levsha
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    Who cares? It was developed in 1/4th of the time of the F-35, for 1/10th of the cost and it will most likely eat it for breakfast.. How better could it get?

    Do you really believe that – or are you just saying that for the sake of argument with Mr/Ms Prime?

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2150968
    Levsha
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    Meanwhile in Syria..

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160902/1044898945/su33-guided-bombs-syria.html

    It seems there are some more rumors about Su-33’s being upgraded with Gefest.

    http://defence-blog.com/news/russia-to-modernize-sukhoi-su-33-carrier-based-aircraft.html

    From the same article:

    “In practical terms this means that every 30+ year old Russian ‘dumb’ bomb can now be delivered by a 30+ year old Russian aircraft with the same precision as a brand new guided bomb delivered by a top of the line modern bomber,” the expert noted.

    Sure.:rolleyes:

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2151327
    Levsha
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    Utter nonsense.. Vietnamese air force consisted mainly of MiG-21Fs, MiG-19s and MiG-17Fs. Later some MiG-21PF/PFM/MFs. Had the US encountered Soviet forces at that time, they would be facing Su-11-8Ms, Su-15TMs, MiG-23SM/Ms, MiG-25Ps and Tu-128s instead.

    Almost none of those Soviet PVO types were ever intended to be operated outside the USSR, only for the defence of the Motherland, except maybe the MiG-23M. Only the Su-11 and the Su-15T (and not the Su-15TM) were anyway operational in the 1965-1973 time frame of the Vietnam airwar

    Edit: The Tu-128 would have been available for most of the war era as well.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2152385
    Levsha
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    Unpaved airfield built in the South Military District, during the last readiness check. That rare moment when you recall what’s the real purpose of this huge landing gear.

    A very useful capability I’m sure. I notice though, that they are not operating at anything near maximum take-off loads?

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