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  • in reply to: General Discussion #350530
    zeinelnour
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    Does anybody really believe that Israel will accept ANY nation trying to do harm to her after that? Israel has never started a problem, she has just retaliated with force.

    Is that so?

    So instilling a regime that discriminates against non-Jews is merely a ‘retaliation with force’ (of course after ethnic cleansing)?

    The construction of settlements in the West Bank is also just a ‘retaliation with force’?

    Stop the “poor Israel, the victim of everything bad in this world” mantra please. It is nonsense. You know, every tyrant an oppressive regime justifies vicious acts by citing self defense.

    in reply to: Palestine/Israel: Still one country after all? #1917542
    zeinelnour
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    Does anybody really believe that Israel will accept ANY nation trying to do harm to her after that? Israel has never started a problem, she has just retaliated with force.

    Is that so?

    So instilling a regime that discriminates against non-Jews is merely a ‘retaliation with force’ (of course after ethnic cleansing)?

    The construction of settlements in the West Bank is also just a ‘retaliation with force’?

    Stop the “poor Israel, the victim of everything bad in this world” mantra please. It is nonsense. You know, every tyrant an oppressive regime justifies vicious acts by citing self defense.

    in reply to: General Discussion #350907
    zeinelnour
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    Oh so it’s fair game for the Palestinians to fire rockets at Israeli settlements indiscriminately but not OK for Israel to retaliate? when that happens the Palstinians go running to the UN complaining about Israel’s provocative attack. It’s long past time for them to realise they can’t have it both ways. If you want an unbiased view on this situation try reading ‘Why Blame Israel?’ and then consider that the roots of this trouble lie in the Balfour Declaration.

    You are absolutely right. The root of the problem can be found in the Balfour Declaration: “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people” with the understanding that “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    The discriminatory nature of the Israeli regime is the current manifestation of this major problem. Everything else, including rockets, suicide bombs, rock attacks… are merely a result of this central problem.

    in reply to: Palestine/Israel: Still one country after all? #1917707
    zeinelnour
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    Oh so it’s fair game for the Palestinians to fire rockets at Israeli settlements indiscriminately but not OK for Israel to retaliate? when that happens the Palstinians go running to the UN complaining about Israel’s provocative attack. It’s long past time for them to realise they can’t have it both ways. If you want an unbiased view on this situation try reading ‘Why Blame Israel?’ and then consider that the roots of this trouble lie in the Balfour Declaration.

    You are absolutely right. The root of the problem can be found in the Balfour Declaration: “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people” with the understanding that “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    The discriminatory nature of the Israeli regime is the current manifestation of this major problem. Everything else, including rockets, suicide bombs, rock attacks… are merely a result of this central problem.

    in reply to: General Discussion #351271
    zeinelnour
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    The aparheid policy of Israel will fall eventually, just like it did in South Africa. It wont take away all the proplems but at least it will take out the most obvious ones. Opression which Old shape descriped will never succeed, it never had and never will in any cases.

    Well said. Thank you.

    in reply to: Palestine/Israel: Still one country after all? #1917928
    zeinelnour
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    The aparheid policy of Israel will fall eventually, just like it did in South Africa. It wont take away all the proplems but at least it will take out the most obvious ones. Opression which Old shape descriped will never succeed, it never had and never will in any cases.

    Well said. Thank you.

    in reply to: General Discussion #351605
    zeinelnour
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    Zeinelnour,if you agree with that interpretation,what’s a practical solution to the situation ?

    We can do it by elimination.
    1. Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians are going anywhere – this rules out total victory for either side.
    2. The two state solution has proven to be a very costly fantasy and has been buried now.
    3. The three state solution (involving Egypt and Jordan) will bring on more wars and no stability.

    This leaves us with one state!

    So I actually think that the only solution would be a regime change in both Israel and the Palestinian Authority leading to a one state solution.

    in reply to: Palestine/Israel: Still one country after all? #1918041
    zeinelnour
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    Zeinelnour,if you agree with that interpretation,what’s a practical solution to the situation ?

    We can do it by elimination.
    1. Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians are going anywhere – this rules out total victory for either side.
    2. The two state solution has proven to be a very costly fantasy and has been buried now.
    3. The three state solution (involving Egypt and Jordan) will bring on more wars and no stability.

    This leaves us with one state!

    So I actually think that the only solution would be a regime change in both Israel and the Palestinian Authority leading to a one state solution.

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