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    NHWF
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    Our most precious book is my grandfather’s WWII logbook from flying Spitfire’s during the war and more specifically, flying BL628 “Marion” during the war. Although, there may be no value in the book, to us, it’s absolutely priceless (hence why it’s kept in a fireproof/waterproof safe! 😉 )

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org

    NHWF
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    Hello again everyone!

    Well, a very significant day is almost upon myself and my family. Marion has arrived in California at Provenance Fighter Sales and we are flying to California to see her. Simon Brown at Provenance Fighter Sales has been very gracious to allow us to come visit with Marion before she is delivered to her new owner. It sounds like Warren Denholm and his crew from Avspecs are going to be there as well and we’re looking forward to meeting with them.

    After 30 years of waiting to meet Marion it almost feals surreal that we’re finally going to be seeing her for the first time. I know my grandfather would have liked to have been there to see her, but after his passing, I know he’ll be there in spirit.

    We’ve been fairly busy here at the Foundation since I last posted on the forums. Len Krenzler’s print of Marion is done and it is absolutely gorgeous! We’re selling prints on our website for those that might be interested.

    Althought Marion has been sold to another party, we’re continuing to move forward with our efforts at raising the money to build a mobile museum dedicated to the men and women of the RCAF. We’re also now looking at the possibility of purchasing a Tiger Moth to start our collection.

    For those that may be interested, I’ve been toying with writing a Blog on our Foundation website of our trip to California. With more photography and video equipment in tow versus clothes I’ve packed, I’ll be posting lots of new pics on the site during our visit. So check into the site starting tomorrow, through to the 12th of December when we’ll be flying back to Canada.

    I also want to take a second here to thank all of you that have been kind enough to send along your photographs you took when Marion was still in New Zealand. It’s been very appreciated by our family. I’ve been salivating over those pics since you sent them, and I can’t wait to finally see her in person!

    Anyhow, check into our site if you’re interested in reading my blog and I’ll be back on the forum post visit to let you know how everything went!

    Best regards,
    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org

    NHWF
    Participant

    We’re happy to announce that we’ve just recently commissioned two Canadian artists – William Hall and Len Krenzler to create two original art pieces for the Foundation. The pictures will feature BL628 in two unique situations during the war.

    You can see more details here

    Mr. Hall’s website is here

    Mr. Krenzler’s webiste is here

    We’re very thankful for their generous donations and welcome them to the Foundation!

    Regards,

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritae Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org

    NHWF
    Participant

    I have a note that the BL628 was ferried by the ATA from 6 Ferry Pool, Ratcliffe – Castle Bromwich to Lichfield. The pilot possibly ‘Jackie’ Moggridge.

    I’m glad you mentioned that Mark12. A few years back, the CBC aired a series of Canadian heritage vignettes on television. One of the vignettes showed a Spitfire coming in for a landing and when some of the pilots gathered around to see who had flown in, they were astonished when a female hopped out of the cockpit. When my grandfather saw this on television he got really excited, exclaiming that’s exactly what happened to him. He remembers receiving his spitfire and being astonished when a female hopped out. We were never sure who that pilot was or whether it was BL628 or another Spit. I would think it’s a fairly safe bet now that it was BL628 and that Moggridge was that pilot! 🙂 That’s a great piece of history we never knew.

    Could it have something to do with the fact that at the time no. 401 converted to Mk IXs, and quite a few (if not all) of its Mk Vs left the unit about that time, going different ways?

    I’ve gone back through my grandfathers logbook for the period from late July to early August 1942 which reads :

    July 27 – Spitfire YOD Gravesend to Martlesham Heath :35 – To Martlesham for weeks rest. This is the last time he flew BL628

    There are 7 entries on August 1, 1942 where he flew Spitfire Mk. IX’s YOF, YOA, YOD and YOB. All Spit IX’s show Duty entries of Air Firing. On one entry he wrote “Darn good aircraft. SQD got Spit IX”

    My understanding is that there was a fairly quick transition to the IX’s from the V’s, hence the entries of multiple V’s leaving on the same day. There are no further entries in his logbook where he flew a Mk. V.

    I have a quick question for everyone – My grandfather was the recipient of the ruby-eyed silkworm from the Irving Air Chute Company for bailing out while under fire. We’ve got fairly good documentation on this pin. He was also awarded a pin of a pilot’s boot with a wing coming from it which we’ve learned is the “Late Arrival Club” pin (?). We are assuming he received this after being an evadee behind enemy lines in France after bailing out. Does anyone know where I can find more information about this pin? I can’t seem to find information about it anywhere. Thanks!

    Here’s a great picture of my grandfather and Billy Bishop. He came to tour 401 SQD and wanted to meet my grandfather.

    Image

    UPDATE – On the website, I’ve also included all of the pilots that flew BL628 in the 401 Squadron. Click here for details.

    Cheers!

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org
    [email]rob@warbirdfoundation.org[/email]

    NHWF
    Participant

    Hello all – great discussion!

    Seafuryfan – Thanks for you comments! We’ll likely do as you suggest and get an already made video installed to start, but what we’d like to have is a custom made movie from the actual cockpit of BL628. It would be great to have a Me109 in the movie as well and re-enact a dogfight… oh, the possibilities…..

    QldSpitty – I might just have to hire you to do the graphics on the sim! 😉 We’d like to have BL628 splashed all over the side of the sim with a huge roundel etc etc etc…

    Mark V – VoyTech – You’re both correct! Sorry Mark V, I don’t think I articulated myself very well when I was speaking about the Mk III’s and Mk Vb.

    Marion was part of the Vickers Armstrong Contract No. B981687/39 out of Castle Bromwich. The third order of the contract was originally for 1000 Mk III’s but were built as Mk Vb’s of which BL628 was one. These Spits were built btwn November 1941 and May 1942. After being built BL628 went to 12 MU on 25 Jan 42. Her conversion to a hooked Spitfire occurred on 19 Jun 43.

    I have fairly good details on her time line through the war and will be posting it on our site fairly soon. I’ll post when that info is up.

    Thanks Mark V for your work on Marion – it’s greatly appreciated by our family.

    Voytech – Our records show on 05 Aug 42, BL628 going to 308 SQD as ZF-? at Heston, Middlesex. Would this be correct? That wouldn’t be a polish or USAAF unit would it?

    Mike J – That’s correct Blakeslee flew BL628 over a period from 05 Apr 42 to 24 May 42. He recorded 6 flights for 3hrs 15 min. We’ll also be putting a complete list of the pilots who flew her in the 401 SQD up on the site shortly. Thanks for the kind words as well!

    DazDaMan – Like Mike J, thanks for the kind words!

    I’ve finally found my disc full of great pics from our family archives and will be putting those up in our Gallery section of the site soon. Will post when complete.

    Talk to you all soon,

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org
    [email]rob@warbirdfoundation.org[/email]

    NHWF
    Participant

    Hello Brett and QldSpitty – thanks for your posts.

    Brett – I’ve just read that recently too. Hopefully a certain Foundation will be the owners by then… 😉

    QldSpitty – I’ve seen the cockpit section that fellow is making and it’s fantastic! I’m sure he’s had a few requests from numerous people regarding their Spit rebuilds. They way I look at it, he shouldn’t stop at the cockpit section – he should just keep building till he has a complete Spitfire. Now that would be an accomplishment.

    What we’re after is a little bit different. It’s a full motion, mobile flight simulator similar to the one below :

    Mobile Flight Sim

    Now imagine the simulator above completely painted in RCAF colours with BL628 splashed across the side, like the typhoon, coupled with a mobile museum dedicated to the men and women of the RCAF AND a static and aerial display of BL628 flown by the grandson of the fighter pilot from WWII. Now that’s an attraction!

    It’s a matter now of putting this in front of the right sponsors who can see the vision we have for this project and making it a reality. Everything right now hinges on raising the capital to purchase BL628 and bring her home.

    Thanks again for the posts and keep them coming!

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org
    [email]rob@warbirdfoundation.org[/email]

    NHWF
    Participant

    Hello David and EN830,

    David – I’ve been in contact with Vintage Wings (http://www.vintagewings.ca) over in Gatineau, Quebec and have had a great chat with Tim Leslie at their organization. They’ve provided me with some valuable insight into our project. I will be calling CWH to have a chat with their organization and will likely take a drive down to visit with them. We’ll also be contacting the major aviation museums to see if they are willing to assist with the mobile museum. Initial inquiries have already shown some interest.

    One of the most promising things we have on the go now is an ongoing discussion with the CBC regarding documentary potential. My ultimate goal is to fly Marion – it would be a great tribute to my grandfather. I’m not sure if there is any family member in the airshow circuit flying their father/grandfather’s aircraft from WWII.

    Our greatest challenge, like everyone else that is working on vintage aircraft, is money. The current asking price for Marion is $3 Million USD. What makes her fairly unique is that she’s an earlier model Spitfire – a converted Mk. III who has actually seen combat – quite a bit of combat in fact. I’ve noticed over the years that most flying Spits are Mk. IX’s or higher which is fantastic, but Marion is closer to the original vision created by Mitchell. We have quite a bit of information and artifiacts on Marion and my grandfather, including his logbook.

    As an aside, for anyone living near Trenton, Ontario, you can see a display of my grandfather at the RCAF Memorial Museum http://www.rcafmuseum.on.ca .

    EN830 – Marion does have quite the history. There are actually two versions of the picture you’ve included of which we have both originals. The picture was taken in 1942 when the 401 Squadron was in Gravesend. You can clearly see Marion on the fuselage. One of the shadowy figures you see at the bottom is my grandfather. There are two colourized copies of the picture. My great grandfather was a photographer and enjoyed colouring black and white photographs which is what he did here. One one of the pictures he’s drawn in a swastika on the fuselage – a very proud father! The swastika never existed on the actual aircraft.

    Here’s a great pic of Scotty and Marion together :

    Scotty and his mount Marion - BL628

    Keep the great posts coming! I’ve got a lot more great pics on our site with many more to be posted so check in and have a look.

    Robert Flindall
    Director
    National Heritage Warbird Foundation
    http://www.warbirdfoundation.org
    [email]rob@warbirdfoundation.org[/email]

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