Extract from 125 Wing ORB for 19 April 1945 – This was late in the day and at about the same time a section of 130 Sqdn ran into 20-plus FW190’s and in the ensuing dogfight F/Lt Ponsford chased one of them 15 miles to the deck before he was able to shoot it down. By then he was alone and came back after trying to locate the other two F/O Murphy and F/Sgt Clay. Neither of them has been heard of since but we hope they got away with it, and in view of the rate at which the blokes are streaming in, they may be back with us quite soon. Here’s hoping. Earlier in the day F/O Carter of 130 Sqdn had engine trouble and force landed in our lines and is believed to be safe, so with any luck we shall be seeing him again quite soon.
According to “Royal Air Force 1939-1945 Vol III The Fight is Won” after a write-up about Ste. Croix sur Mer “The airfield was ready on the 10th and from it Squadron Leader J Storrar took off with urgent despatches and mail. Flight Lieutenant H J Dowding was probably the first Allied fighter pilot to land on, or rather beside, the first airstrip at Asnelles, which, as distinct from the first airfield, had been finished by the evening of 7th June” Asnelles was allocated B.1 and St. Croix was B.3 – cheers Allan125
Spitfire XIV dig
And this is Andy Miller – who was shot down by a gunner in a Ju188 – however, if anybody has a photo of F/O I Smith (SR80463) I would love a copy. He became the Prime Minister of Southern Rhodesia (then Rhodesia) before passing the job on to Robert Mugabe. cheers – Allan125 π
No – it’s not Carter – but he is definitely RAAF – note the lack of Wings or RAAF blue in this photo. It’s Vic Murphy.
Spitfire XIV dig
Right Squadron – Someone looked in FCL and decided it wasn’t Terry Spencer, Phil Clay or Frank Woolley as they are Brit’s – but what about F/O W H Carter who is also RAAF and survived ? π cheers – Allan125
Just got off a coach to see “How the West was Won” in London for JFK and thought people were joking. Don’t remember about Elvis or Lennon – Diana, I was driving to Snetterton for a M/Cycle Endurance race meeting and found the radio was playing lousy music, thought Queen Mum had died until heard news – by the time I got to Snet people were saying “Have you heard Diana’s dead – yeah – she stepped on a land mine” !!!
Hi Guys – I am involved in the dig in Germany – however, all I am allowed to say by the producer is that it is a Spitfire XIV, with an Australian pilot (who is still alive) – my hobby is 125 Wing 1943-1945 (41, 130 and 350 at the relevant time) and it’s in FCL so that narrows the squadron down a bit !! No it’s not an Oz squadron, they didn’t have XIV’s at the time. More when I can say – cheers – Allan125
I am surprised that Ian says that Peter Graham was with 41 and then was shot down with another squadron. According to his book “Skypilot – memoirs from take-off to landing” – which is superb, and available from Peter himself – he was still with 41 squadron when he was shot down on 1 September, on a rhubarb in the area of St. Omer (not St. Malo). FCL puts him in MB831 – 41 Sqn (or is that Sqdn or Sqdn. !!) and “Shot down while attacking a train near Ghent”. Regarding rests between tours – S/Ldr R A “Max” Sutherland DFC did one tour as Co of 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron AuxAF between Oct ’43 – Jul ’44 then “rested” as a V.C.P. (Visual Control Post !!) and then did another tour as CO of 602 again between Sept ’44 and May ’45. Several famous photo’s exist of him and Major Colin Grey of the Queens regiment, both on an armoured vehicle and occupying a hole in the ground (some rest !!). On another point raised recently (Squadron/Sqn etc.) I have a photo of Australian pilots serving with 130 (Punjab) squadron at B.78 Eindhoven in March ’45 – of the 7 in the photo 2 are in RAAF blue, and two have the Australia flash. The others are in “standard RAF battledress. A further photo of one in Australian Blue shows him in RAF battledress, but without wings !!:)
Ashley – Looking through the 125 Airfield ORB for 9/7/43 – the first operational show from 125 Airfield since it’s inception in June ’43, it states: “As the machines were returning to base F/Lt. Bell of 19 sqdn. collided with S/Ldr Ekins” – so that is a small s and a full stop afterwards. In 1944 some entries showed Sqdn (large S no .) and others Sqn !! 1945 entries seem to be Sqdn (again large S no .) Also, on 7/5/45 it refers to 414 squadron RCAF as “but without the Recce Squadron (414).” Hope that helps?? π
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if you want to know about planes landing in the Irish Republic go to http://www.csn.ul.ie/~dan/war/crashes.html which has listed over 180 incidents involving crashes, forced landings and shoot downs of aircraft over Ireland and the surrounding seas in the 1939 to 1945 period. It says “Spare a thought for the lives of these young British, German, American, Polish, Canadian and others, who lives were lost on or around the Island during this time. While the remains of most of those Allied airmen whom lost their lives in Ireland were returned to their home authorities and are buried in the UK or in Northern Ireland, the remains of German airmen were interred locally near the crash sites. After the wars end, these remains were moved and interred in Glencree War Cemetry in Wicklow.” cheers – Allan125
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hi Dave – Ulf Christiernsson was one of the few Swedish pilots who volunteered for Allied service during the Second World War. Before the war he was a successful pilot in the Swedish Air Force. In 1942 he asked the commander of the Swedish Air Force for permission to volunteer for Allied service. He went to the British Embassy in Stockholm and enlisted. The RAF transported Ulf in a British Airways Dakota to England for training β and, eventually, he served in 680 squadron in Italy. In 1944 he was transferred to 130 (Punjab) Squadron in Belgium. He was only stationed with this unit for three months before he was sent back to his old unit. Just after the end of the war in Europe he was stationed in Norway as a Spitfire pilot. After Germany had surrendered he volunteered as a De Havilland Hornet pilot in the “TIGER FORCE”, which was to be sent to the Far East. However the war ended before he was finished with his training. The Swiss used to fire flak at allied aircraft infringing their airspace – and the Spanish were well known for imprisoning allied personnel who crossed the border and were caught, or handed themselves over. before they were released and sent to Gibraltar. An Icelander also served with the RAF, Thorsteinn “Tony” Jonsson, he has written a book about his experiences. Flying Spitfires and then Mustangs in 65 Squadron – 122 Wing – Jonsson would become an ace over Normandy in June 1944 when he downed two Focke Wulf 190s. During the war, Jonssonβs victories included 8 aircraft destroyed, 1 probable, and 2 damaged. He had already fought in the desert, gaining the DFM. Hope this helps – Allan125
Robbo – thanks for the URL and the fresh photo of S-Sugar. Whilst it might be easy to get shots of Sugar from Croydonia down here in deepest Cornwall it is not so easy as I can’t just pop in when I want to check on something !! Just one of the many things you miss when you move away from Londonium – still I can always wander down to St. Mawgan or Culdrose I suppose !! cheers – Allan125:cool:
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Hi Lancman – please pass over the Waddington site details.
When I am not researching 125 Wing and it’s squadrons (Spit’s, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Tempests) I also look around for Lanc’s (preferably of 61 squadron i.e. current BOBMF Lanc is one of course) as I had a cousin serve a 33 op. tour as a Navigator flying from Skelingthorpe. cheers – Allan125
RAF Museum booklets
back cover of “A very special Lancaster” – Happy to scan anything of either book if anybody is interested. cheers – Allan125.
RAF Museum booklets
and another one