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  • in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2212431
    blackadam
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    PLA missile system uses Japanese-made switch

    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/newsphoto/2013-09-29/450/switch-103345_copy1.jpg

    A Japanese AZ8112 limit switch. (Internet Photo)

    Turkey has decided to purchase the FD-2000, the export version of China’s HQ-9 medium-to-long range surface-to-air missile, but the Global Times, a tabloid under the auspices of the Communist Party mouthpiece People’s Daily, noted that the AZ8112 limit switch of the missile is actually made in Japan.

    As China is currently locked in a territorial dispute with Japan over the Diaoyu (Diaoyutai or Senkaku) islands, the Global Times pointed out that it is a potential threat and Japanese electronic components can no longer be used in Chinese weapon systems. In addition to the HQ-9 missile, the report said that the submarine radar systems of the People’s Liberation Army Navy are also made in Japan.

    Without enough experience to produce its own electronic products, China has to import some electronic components from either Japan and South Korea. However, both Japan and South Korea support the “Asia Pivot” strategy of the United States — the US defense strategy from the Obama Administration that calls for strengthening American military might in the Asia-Pacific. For this reason, China’s national security is thus in danger if it continues to rely too much on US allies to improve the quality of its weapon systems, the report said.

    http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/SF9n0XnWe1mhJ0SanI/Image/2013/10/4-7a6a0.jpg

    The disputed Diaoyu islands are controlled by Japan, which refers to them as Senkaku, and also claimed by Taiwan, where they are known as Diaoyutai.

    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130929000076&cid=1101

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2212434
    blackadam
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    Who can tell me about the J-10B radar?

    I think PLAAF still use Zhuk-10PD (Made by Russian) for J-10B

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2213844
    blackadam
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    Anyone with information about the AESA radar on J-10B

    in reply to: Top 5 air launched anti shipping missiles? #1788020
    blackadam
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    I will say Kh-59M2, using IR / TV seeker, it is difficult to jamming, speed of Mach 0.88, although it is not unexpected to ESSM or CIWS, but most ashm use the power of the majority

    in reply to: Aegis vs Ashm #1788029
    blackadam
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    Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and some of those missile approach heights seem questionable. For example, Exocet flies at around 100m until it gets to within seeker range of the target. Once it has lock-on (perhaps around 15-10km from its victim), it descends to some 10-15m above sea level, and only gets down to lower heights in the final part of its run. That final approach can be anything from 8 – 2m, depending on sea state.

    Oh, my friends, do not feel troll (mig31bm)

    I found that the ability Aegis combat system is easy to Torpedo or Ashm be launched from submarines (Klub-S, YJ-18, P-800) can through and beat down it, in addition to the weapons as Iskander-K, BM25 Musudan, DF-21D CJ-10 / YJ-100, P-800, BrahMos is completely impenetrable shield Aegis with their speed. Most of the radar warning, radar searching/scan, FCR is sufficient to detect and track them but only the reaction rate is a few seconds and distance detection is usually very close to the warship by sea-skimming capability of anti-ship missile. It is not enough to cause significant damage if the rocket attacks follow the majority

    Aegis system is not completely integrated to ASW, Fleet carriers rely on ASW MH60 if located in areas that range P-3/8 can not be reached

    ASW is another war, a very complex

    French delete evidence US carrier was ‘sunk’ by sub in drill

    http://rt.com/usa/238257-french-submarine-us-carrier/

    Chinese Song-class sub surfaces near USS Kitty Hawk undetected

    http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=10032.5;wap2

    Russian Submarine in Gulf of Mexico Raises Concerns

    http://global.christianpost.com/news/russian-submarine-in-gulf-of-mexico-raises-concerns-80126/
    http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsrussian-nuclear-submarine-sails-in-gulf-of-mexico-undetected

    The ASBM as: DF-21D, R-27K, BM25, Persian Gulf (likely ASBM) at a speed too fast (almost the speed of Mach 3-10) and top-attack, so the defensive measures electronic like ESM, ECM, chaff is completely useless , however Aegis system can detect by radar range, but only if they were really falling into the orbit of the earth as it is similar to supersonic speeds Ashm fired from submarines, speed and handling aegis of the reaction rate, the interception of SM2ER, SM3 block IIB will be factors in determining whether they are protected the CG-47 class, DDG-51 class or aircraft carrier

    in reply to: Top ARM missile #1788031
    blackadam
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    Su-25, Su-34 has also been successfully used Kh-31P and Kh-25, to disable enemy air defense forces in Kuwait, Iran and Georgia

    I did not find any statistically significant achievements of HARM, positive as the air defense system of Iraq and Yugoslavia were paralyzed by rain bombs from F117, B2 and Tomahawk not by HARM

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2235681
    blackadam
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    look at this statement. does not make sense since in 2010 no PAK-FA was flown with Radar and when it was flown the radar house said it exceed expectation. So don’t believe on any hype that is written about China. it is good for building iCrap.

    oh thank bro, you see that China has exaggerated their success

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236087
    blackadam
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    Blog and forum “rumours” turned out to be quite accurate when you know how to parse the information. So yeah, you poo-pooing them doesn’t change the fact that they’ve proven quite reliable, far more so than the sources you’ve chosen to reference. It’s the historical accuracy of the source that dictates its reliability, not the medium or form of the source. And I’m not avoiding your AMR-1 seeker claim. I’m pointing out that you’re using crappy sources to back that claim.

    I don’t for a fact, but neither do you. There is however something very telling about the fact that China made a switch from Russian supplied avionics to domestically developed ones, which is pretty much against the preference of the Russian defence industry. There was also a pretty solid report from a western military analyst (maybe it was Erickson or Fisher?) who went to a Chinese defence trade show and noted as much that China had surpassed Russia in its electronics and avionics. This was as far back as 5-6 years ago. (If anyone still remembers the source or has it archived it’d be nice to have. I seem to have lost my ability to find it).

    Please prove China overtook Russia in the field of technology?
    They can produce AESA radar, but I have not seen any of them really AESA radar operations
    Oh AMR-1 I used the main information source of China

    Mikron products are sold to South-Eastern Asia.
    The main export countries are China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

    http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=35560307
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&tkr=MKRO:RU&sid=a5PWMkS3_Ce4

    AMR-1 based on information sources such as fas, baidu it is official source, not the blog and forum, forum and blog based on what? The drawings and the words no one verified

    http://baike.baidu.com/view/5549080.htm
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/amr-1.htm
    http://military.china.com/zh_cn/critical3/27/20010523/182079.html

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236091
    blackadam
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    I too, rely on “Western military analysists” for my information regarding Russian vs Chinese systems.

    But seriously, instead of getting upset you guys can just….ignore the thread you know.

    Well I used information from China, but china fanboy ignore it

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236285
    blackadam
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    Nearly every piece of new information we get on China’s military development originates from blogs and forums. We were getting information about the J-20 program in blogs and forums years before the plane materialized in pictures. The J-20’s first pics also showed up first on blogs and forums weeks before the western press caught on and…you guessed it…used the blogs and forums as sources. They’ve been using those same blogs and forums every since. The same has happened with just about every major Chinese military reveal, so yeah, I would say they’re probably more authentic than the unsourced junk from WantChinaTimes.

    blogs and forums are the rumors. You’re avoiding problems AMR-1 seeker

    How do you know Chinese AESA radar really good like Russia, Europe and the US

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236288
    blackadam
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    This forum definitely needs a facepalm smiley… This litle gem is so unbelivable that it made me smile, thanks.
    Here, have a couple of interesting readings for you:

    http://www.amazon.ca/Dragons-Wings-Andreas-Rupprecht/dp/1906537364

    http://www.amazon.ca/Modern-Chinese-Warplanes-Aircraft-Aviation/dp/0985455403/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1420810152&sr=1-1

    you try trolling ! I’m sure any of your sources, do not have any information radar AESA China made

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236295
    blackadam
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    Unfortunately, the opacity of China’s military development allows for uninformed stooges like yourself to posit the most absurd suppositions against the better judgements of those who’ve put years and years of work into piecing together and parsing what trickle of information is afforded us. Until we get leakers (or until intelligence agencies decide to gift hobby watchers like us with information for I don’t know what reasons) no one in public has the actual answers to your questions. However, that does not make the answers you’ve pulled from sources that love to throw around un-vetted and fabricated information to get clicks accurate to any degree. You’re free to believe what you want, but just because you’ve found a bunch of unsourced information on the internet does not make what you believe factual by any manner of speaking.

    If you care to know what we actually can say with any measure of certainty about China’s AESA radars, the best information we have is that the J-20 radar you see being tested in the image you’ve attached is a 3rd generation AESA. The first generation AESA was supposed to be installed on the J-10B (differing reports to whether that radar was completed on time for the J-10B), and a second generation was supposed to be installed on the J-16 (which to the best of my knowledge and memory we seemed reasonably confident has been installed already). There are some leaks and documents that indicate some degree of reliability for this information. While the veracity of the information isn’t absolute, it’s, given how information about military developments in China gets out, about as good as we’ve got. I’ll include some of the documents and leaked items that have helped reach these conclusion, but I doubt they’ll sway you. Whatever, you can believe what you want.

    Leak talking about three generations of AESA:
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/5/szc6.jpg

    Items on the J-10B’s radar. The research article was leaked with the non-installed images of the radar by the same leaker if I recall correctly.
    http://www.militaryparitet.com/editor/assets/new/Files4/J-10B_AESA.jpg
    http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1206/j10bradar.jpg
    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/rbi-blogs/wp-content/uploads/mt/flightglobalweb/blogs/asian-skies/assets_c/2012/01/China’s%20AESA%20Radar-thumb-560×345-149951.jpg
    http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1396/2713597603460e57e90daca.gif
    http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2290/27135976e80062f76c39146.gif
    http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4687/27135976c43636fece03a67.gif
    http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4081/2713597638e303b1fe431fe.gif

    no forum and blog pls :))

    http://www.militaryparitet.com/editor/assets/new/Files4/J-10B_AESA.jpg

    oh, this is real radar AESA ? or model ! you don’t known any specs that right ?

    look at! this is model Stealth aircraft of Iran.

    http://images.tienphong.vn/Uploaded/Images/b/4d3/b4d382f3df06893244a4132934d9ea2d.JPG

    Chinese AESA Radar is something similar

    Range Scanning ?
    The ability to search (number of target can track/lock) ?
    Elevation scan ?
    There Mode SAR ?
    maximum power ? really, not rumor
    How many TR Modules ? really, not rumor
    Experiment with aerodynamics of J-10B ! – very important
    The test with missile PL-11/12! – very important

    China does not have the ability to Russia, Europe and the US, they can not shrink electronic circuitry to ensure proper operation. Be realistic, China is sure they want to brag J-10B exporters with AESA radar but they are stalled

    Remember Zhuk-AE , APG-77 and Captor-E were tested with weapons. They have perfected the ability to operate. Any information shows J-10B has really been tested radar, weapons?

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236415
    blackadam
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    You simply don’t get it ! Proofing anything with unreliable or even worse completely wrong “sources” is way wrong ! … not even the designations of missile types You use are correct …

    Deino

    Any source you talk about J-10B , J-16, J-20 radar is authentic? I noticed they only exist on the blog and forum

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236416
    blackadam
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    Like I already noted, he uses false and unreliable sources to try to proof anything that fit’s his opinion, but in the same way he negates, ignores and takes down all other evidence that there are working AESA’s – or at least under development – not only purchased from Russia, Ukraine and Israel.

    Even more simply by the fact that we can’t tell :(what’s the name, address and number of kids of the worker who assembled the J-10B’s or J-16’s radar.

    Don’t get me wrong, but I would call this simply trolling around !

    Deino

    China fanboy ! let answer me !

    This is radar AESA KLj-5 ?
    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpNWkGaIQAAk_M2.jpg:medium

    Do you believe that it is fully functional as radar of other countries?
    Range Scanning ?
    The ability to search (number of target can track/lock) ?
    Elevation scan ?
    There Mode SAR ?
    Chip processor ?
    maximum power ? really, not rumor
    How many TR Modules ? really, not rumor
    Experiment with aerodynamics of J-20 !
    The test with missile PL-11/12!

    MiG-35, F-22, EF-2000 test with radar AESA of them
    en.take-off.ru/news/102/524
    http://www.f-16.net/f-22-news-article2249.html
    http://defense-update.com/20131216_typhoon_upgrades.html#.VK7KFHuW4jx

    Ok! I just need to know the actual specs of the J-10B radar, J-16. Do you have any actual information? except forum and blog?!

    in reply to: PLAAF crisis #2236418
    blackadam
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    Wrong! PL-9C is an export missile and China uses PL-8B which is an improved copy of the Python-III (Israel). Original SD-10 which is an export missile is said to have a Russian seeker (Agat?), but what the PL-12 has is a different matter.
    .

    China be banned on trade with Israel and France, after Tiananmen massacre 1989
    So China can not access technology HMS and remember the Soviet Union went ahead the West in technology HMS with R-73, the MiG-29 of the German Democratic has technology outperformed the F-15/16, Mirage 5/2000, Jas 37 and Tornado
    Pl-9C is the latest version, Python-3 is old technology. Ukraine was integrated PL-9C with HMS, the newspaper did not specify

    PL-9C and HMS: It is not clear that the PL-9C AAM with the TK-14 helmet sight is in widespread PLA service, an indication that the PLA was instead waiting for a more advanced short-range AAM. Source: RD Fisher

    http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.181/pub_detail.asp

    You need a data link compatible with HMS TK-14 Ukrainian, Ukraine has improved seeker PL-9 (PL-9C)

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