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  • in reply to: RAF Centenary Flypast #770378
    ianwoodward9
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    TEEJ above [Post #5] linked to a site that listed 67 aircraft in 18 formations as rehearsing. If you add to this the Battle of Britain flight, the Red Arrows and, as I recall the content of the BBC report, 22 aircraft in a ‘secret’ formation (perhaps spelling out “100” across the sky – my speculation), then you would indeed be talking of around 100 in total. Is my recall of the BBC report correct?

    Incidentally, one website also shows an RC-135 as perhaps taking part.

    in reply to: Viewing spots for Flypast on 10th July. #771126
    ianwoodward9
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    I might be able to get up to Central London on Tuesday. Not seen a flypast there before but, looking at the line of the route, I thought the South Bank, with a view across the Thames towards Somerset House, seemed a possible viewing point. I’m less concerned about photography but it’s just about the width of the river from the line of flight and one would not be looking into the sun.

    Thoughts? Comments? Past experience? Anyone?

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #776597
    ianwoodward9
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    Currently without PC access and using a ‘borrowed’ i-pad.

    The OS map showing General Roy’s ‘baseline’ was most interesting to see. The Heathrow end is relatively close to the location of the Three Magpies pub; I always thought it was closer to Harlington Corner. The other end of the line is in a street which I recall as Roy Grove. I used to walk along that very street every school day morning for a couple of years or so in my youth.

    The line runs very close to where I lived in the years when I became interested in aviation and visited LAP so much. If you look in the bottom right-hand corner of the map, my home was just above the ‘ham’ of ‘Feltham’. Across the river to the east was the southwestern edge of what was left of Hounslow Heath (visible from my bedroom window, from which I could see aircraft coming in on what was then 28L). The straight right-angled lines on the map mark, very roughly, the boundary of the Hounslow Heath aerodrome from which the first international service operated roughly 100 years ago.

    Just off the map, in the bottom right-hand corner (just below the red ‘X’ of roads), is the location of Hanworth Air Park, noted in the 1930s as the base of the National Flying Clubs (I think the name was something like that), site of the Zeppelin visit(s) to London (which brought huge crowds to the airfield) and adjacent to the factory of the General Aircraft Company in Feltham.

    There wil be other claimants, I’m sure, but this little patch of West London can surely make a case as the ‘home’ of aviation development in Britain.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #788020
    ianwoodward9
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    And these were the times they were expected to arrive on 29 October 1946:

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #788029
    ianwoodward9
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    These were the transatlantic and Latin American arrivals in the eastern USA on 29 October 1946. Apart from the two flights from Bermuda, which went into Baltimore, they seem to be the eleven arrivals at La Guardia cited in the above report, though, if so, the time-span of their arrival (7.40 am to 2.19 pm) seems a bit wider than three hours:

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #788038
    ianwoodward9
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    29 October 1946 may have seen an extreme example of delays in passenger handling at La Guardia but it is likely to have been the sort of thing to which the Pan Am official was referring in Post # 380.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #790093
    ianwoodward9
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    The passengers on that first Pan Am flight (aboard Clipper London) included the American Wightman Cup tennis team, coming to play against the British team in mid-June. As you would imagine, this was the first match between the two teams since 1939, so this alone would have interested the press contingent in London.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #790095
    ianwoodward9
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    The above report says the two aircraft arrived in ‘driving rain‘ and that the passengers got through customs and immigration (and the inevitable press on the ‘opening’ day) and into Central London “within an hour and forty-five minutes“. This was contrasted with the “four to five hours consumed in getting to London from Hurn“.

    Despite the “inferior physical facilities” (described elsewhere in the article as “exotic-looking” and “crude“), the processing of passengers (described by one Pan Am official as “expeditious“) was contrasted with New York where “interminable delays (were) met by passengers“. Whether this was a one-off for the opening services or the continuing experience of passengers isn’t clear.

    To support something mentioned earlier (by longshot, I think), Sir Henry Self (Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Civil Aviation) congratulated the American airlines for pushing for the move from Hurn on the promised date “despite the efforts of minor officials in his Ministry to delay the event until buildings could be constructed for the reception of passengers“. Whether you think that “minor” civil servants were the only stumbling block, I leave to you.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #790099
    ianwoodward9
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    Regarding the official opening of Heathrow, here’s the headline in an American newspaper (dateline 31 May 1946) – 7 tents and 3 trailers !

    in reply to: 1948 International Air Rally, Lympne #790279
    ianwoodward9
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    Associated Press report on Miss Lettice Curtis at the Lympne Air Race 1948:

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #791121
    ianwoodward9
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    Sorry, got interrupted.

    Or is that the location of the Three Magpies?

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #791147
    ianwoodward9
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    This is a bit closer again, with some red markings.

    What’s left of the old Heathrow Road (coming from Cain’s Lane) is in the bottom left-hand corner. The road marked “A” is, I assume, Sipson Road. At its junction with Bath Road, I have put a red question mark – is that the Three Magpies pub?

    Further east along Bath Road is another red question mark. I think this is the Bricklayers Arms (thanks for that information, longshot), later the Air Hostess pub. It appears to be opposite the entrance to the “new air terminal”, which would be about right.

    I’ve surrounded what seems to be the “new air terminal” itself with a red line.

    I think that the road off Bath Road marked ‘B‘ in the top right-hand corner must be New Road.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #791157
    ianwoodward9
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    Here’s the extract from the above photograph:

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #791284
    ianwoodward9
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    This an aerial view of North Side taken by the RAF on 7 June 1946, a week after its official opening. I’ll post an extract of this photo later.

    Meantime, I have added a red line in the bottom right-hand corner, which is Cain’s Lane coming up from the Great South West Road.

    Cain’s Lane then ends at the junction with Heathrow Road, which is shown by the red dashes coming up from the bottom of the photograph.

    From the junction of the two roads onwards, it was called Heathrow Road up to the Bath Road, which crosses the photo from left to right. It almost ‘disappears’ where the north runway and the taxi-track were built but can still be made out.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #791450
    ianwoodward9
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    And surely those are RAF roundels on the caravans?

    Isn’t that the “Air Hostess” pub to the right of centre in the background? It was called something different in 1946, though, I think

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