I know this is five years on from the original enquiry but why would a journey from London to Mexico City in 1952 have gone eastbound? Would it not have been simpler, shorter and cheaper to have gone westbound, across the Atlantic to New York or Miami, and, from there, got a connecting flight to Mexico City?
For daveg4oyu, a cigarette advertisement with a photo captioned: “Gliding:a fine day over Hampshire“:
In the wartime editions of FLIGHT, available on-line, there are many advertisements from aircraft manufacturers and suppliers. Presumably, they had to be cleared but that didn’t stop them from advertising. Unsurprisingly, I have not found in its pages any from ‘airlines’ (they may be there but, if so, I haven’t come across them).
I did find one British airline advertisement, though, but it was in a 1942 book, as I recall. It was placed by North Eastern Airways, mentioned its pre-war activities, and its contribution to the war effort and looked forward to resuming services after the war. It offered a ‘memorandum’ on ‘The Future of Civil Aviation’. I’ve never seen it but I bet it didn’t predict what transpired. Anyway, here’s the ad in question:
I have just learned this today myself but I’m not sure if No.1 (B) OTU has anything to do with RNZAF’s No.10 (OT) squadron, as mentioned by Chris in his post. Do you know, by any chance?
There is a ’43’ just about visible on the tail of the Ventura in the photograph, which would make the serial number NZ4543
This is the same as a July 1955 BEA advert on the ‘Aviation Ancestry’ website but with a different layout, including a larger image of the Viscount:
If you’ve not seen it before, daveg4otu, this may be of interest:
Thanks for the confirmation, Chris. I will PM you with some additional information.
And, as you can see below, the Mercury 8 was “THE AVIATION IDEA IN AN AUTOMOBILE” (whatever that might mean).
I believe this comes from Collier’s Magazine (for a very short period of my life, I sold Collier’s Encyclopedia door-to-door in New England) and shows a United Air Lines Boeing 247D.
And here is the whole of that advertisement:
This time, part of a car manufacturer’s advertisement that also features an aircraft.
The date of the advert is April 1941, the car is a Mercury 8 and the aircraft is a Lockheed Lodestar (ZS-ATM of South African Airways).
This time, a Wellington flying low:
I didn’t expect to find anything of relevance so quickly but the first book I dug out of a box in the garage (the 1945 edition of “AIRCRAFT OF THE UNITED STATES” by R.A.Saville-Sneath) had useful three-view drawings, which I show below.
I have very slightly stretched the Hudson drawing horizontally in order to achieve equal wing spans and thus a better comparison. I don’t think this action has distorted the image in a significant way.
When I was much, much younger and spending hours looking through these old (even then) books, the text used to refer to the equal tapering of the Hudson’s wing in contrast to the slightly ‘bent’ rear edge of the Ventura’s wing. However, when I saw Ventura photos showing the wing, this shape was not readily apparent. Maybe you had to see the two aircraft in flight for real to appreciate the difference.
This is an official Lockheed publicity photograph of a Hudson. I omitted one self-evident recognition feature – the Hudson had a non-retractable tail wheel. I am therefore quietly confident that the low-flying Lockheed, a few posts ago, is a Ventura (or a PV-1) but not a Hudson.
Quite what that means for or about No.10 (OT) Squadron, I do not know.
Meanwhile, brickbats are invited.
Thank you, Chris, for your response. I’d been looking for an RAF squadron with a “ZX” code and none I found seemed to fit the bill.
In terms of the aircraft type, I had it filed as a “PV-1”. Whether I got that designation from a photo caption or whether it was my own identification, I really cannot say. Whichever it was, let me explain why I was content to stick with Ventura or ‘PV-1’.
To be the best of my knowledge, Hudsons did not have the ventral gun position, which gives that ‘kink’ in the lower rear fuselage. Also, the Hudson, being based on the Lockheed 14, has a shorter fuselage than a Ventura, which is based on the Lockheed 18 (the Lodestar); this gives the Hudson a slightly ‘stubbier’ appearance. Also, the dorsal turret on a Hudson was much further back along the fuselage.
In respect of it being a PV-1 as against a Ventura, I actually think that, despite the roundel, it looks more like a PV-1 (as in the U.S. Navy) than it does a Ventura (as in RAF service). The reason I say that is that the Venturas had more of a bubble for the dorsal turret (rather like the dorsal turret on a Hudson, as it happens), whereas the PV-1s had a more ‘flat-topped’ bubble to the dorsal turret.
That’s just my personal view, of course, and, as I’ve often said in other threads on this site, I am very happy to be countered and/or contradicted.
Meanwhile, I will try to find some images to illustrate the differences that I have mentioned and, if I do, I’ll post them later.
Another ‘vintage’ one – a Ventura flying low.
Can anyone suggest to which squadron “ZX” applied?