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  • in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817682
    ianwoodward9
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    This is a still from the above newsreel. I have lightened it quite a bit to try to identify the aircraft.

    The DC-3 is clearly PH-AST. Behind it is DC-2 (PH-)AKT.

    On the right is, I think, another DC-2. The end of the registration, under the wing, looks like it should be “(PH-)ALF” but, since that aircraft crashed in July 1937 and the newsreel comes from 1939, then it is presumably PH-ALE. If I’m correct, then this is the KLM DC-2 that became G-AGBH and has featured in an earlier post here.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817698
    ianwoodward9
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    I hope the link below shows you something new and that you find it as interesting, Jur.

    It’s another bit of old news film, this time about KLM air hostesses in 1939. Unfortunately, the newsreel footage is cut off after about 2 minutes but it does feature a few shots of KLM aircraft.

    I’ll put up the two links first and, later, post a few stills from the film with comments.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/air-hostess-1/query/KLM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxoozrHjkg

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817795
    ianwoodward9
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    Thanks for your information, ericmunk, 15 September 1943 being the day that G-AGHS was registered.

    I shall check the elevator clamps, now that you’ve pointed it out.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817847
    ianwoodward9
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    Just to add that, in the above photograph, the aircraft are (from Left to Right):

    DC-3 G-AGBD (formerly of KLM); DC-3 G-AGFY (with Liberator G-AGFR behind); Liberator G-AGFS (with DC-3 G-AGHS behind); DC-3 G-AGFZ; and an unidentified Liberator G-AGF?.

    I have a view as to which this unidentified Liberator may be but I do not know for sure. Does anyone know its registration?

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817853
    ianwoodward9
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    You’re most welcome, Duggy, but I only ‘found’ it; John Wilson did all the work and put it on-line.

    A different matter: there is well-known photograph of BOAC aircraft on the apron at Portela Airport, which opened on 15 October 1942. The photo was taken at least a year after that. I’ve cut out the grass and the sky and limited it just to the aircraft. There is at least one other photograph taken the same day; there are probably more. Perhaps the actual date is known by somebody reading this, in which case, please let me know.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #817955
    ianwoodward9
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    I’ve brightened the shot of the US Ambassador’s KLM DC-3 landing. Where was it filmed?

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818033
    ianwoodward9
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    Thank you, longshot. That was the British Movietone News clip. This is the Pathe News version of the same event:

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/new-us-ambassador-in-britain/query/New+US+Ambassador+In+Britain

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TohL7pHavMg

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #818058
    ianwoodward9
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    Having spun this thread off in other directions in the past, I was in a quandary as to where to place the following but thought it might be more relevant to this thread. I hope it may be new to you.

    It is entitled, “History of the Air Transport Command in Central Africa and the Middle East” and largely consists of microfilm copies of original U.S. documents.

    There is a lot here; Part II is very long – 1742 pages. It was John Wilson, a name that has popped up here before, who undertook the task of restoring these documents and making them available for study by others. To him should go any credit.

    http://www.wasc.org.uk/WASC_addl_pubs_ATC_history.html

    Scroll down and click each of the links at the bottom

    WARNING: Part II is a huge file (almost 573 MB) – slow and not always easy to download.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818066
    ianwoodward9
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    And, for those more interested in KLM’s DC-3 flights to and from Lisbon, this bit of newsreel footage shows one of these in the opening sections:

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/american-private-citizen-no-1-arrives

    It shows a KLM DC-3 arriving at Whitchurch, though the airport is not given by name. And is that a Flamingo taking off from Whitchurch towards London at the end? To Heston, perhaps?

    Here are a couple of stills from the newsreel footage:

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818083
    ianwoodward9
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    Thanks for the video, Duggy. Very interesting to see.

    I don’t know if you are familiar with this document [“The Wartime Atlantic routes of Pan American Airways”] or its contents but, in case not, here it is:

    https://www.wasc.org.uk/NewFiles/Pan-Am%20documents/01_Introduction.pdf

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818382
    ianwoodward9
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    Since I find it so difficult to read extended documents on-screen, Duggy, I’ve taken the liberty of placing the text of your attachment into a WORD document – I trust that’s OK. The role and actions of civilian crews in WWII fascinated me as a youth and, as is evident in this thread, I believe, continues to do so at this end of my life. I didn’t know the story of ‘Pacific Clipper’ immediately following Pearl Harbor, so that made it doubly welcome.

    There is a reference to a ‘video’ at the end. Could you please give details of that.

    I notice that it was entitled “Pan Am – The Secret Weapon’ and it may be worth saying that, even before Pearl Harbor, Pan Am’s role in WWII had been publicised. The LIFE article, in the aforementioned 20 Oct 41 issue, was entitled: “Juan Trippe – Pan American Airway’s Young Chief Helps Run A Branch Of U.S. Defense”.

    That article included a Pan Am route map, not two months before Pearl Harbor, which may help others reading the account of Pacific Clipper’s ‘adventures’ – or, at least, parts of it:

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818465
    ianwoodward9
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    Thanks for link, Duggy – all very interesting indeed.

    I think the photo below shows the difference, visually at least, in the angle of the wing and the tailplane:

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818522
    ianwoodward9
    Participant

    Maybe there has been some ‘airbrushing’ of the fuselage, as it looks rather ‘smooth’; perhaps the photo was cleaned up to remove any outward signs of ‘wear and tear’.

    I was not concerned about the shadows on the front fuselage and the white uniforms do seem to be reflected on the underside of the wing.

    I agree that, when you drew our attention to the wing and the tailplane, lazy8, they didn’t look quite right but, when I examined a line drawing (see below), I was much less concerned. I think the low sun (possibly coming from the west in the evening, with a warm glow) gives a bit of a false impression.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818743
    ianwoodward9
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    Once again, a photo I hadn’t seen before. Thanks, Duggy. The flying boats came into Cabo Ruivo, a district of Lisbon very close to where the new Oriente railway station is located. At that point, the River Tagus is very wide, more like a river basin. The Vasco de Gama bridge now crosses that stretch of water and that is the longest bridge in Europe at 7.5 miles approx. The Tagus is more like a 5 mile x 5 mile lake there. It’s hardly surprising that you can’t see the distant shore in that photograph.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #818978
    ianwoodward9
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    Thanks for the tip about LIFE magazine. I found the following in that 20 Oct 41 issue, the cover of which is shown in Post # 258 (above): three Pan Am Clippers at Horta.

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