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  • in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2410845
    pjhydro
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    I only used that word because you implied that the USA was trying to make it something that it wasn’t. The US is simply stating the truth. It is not saying, so far as I am aware, that it is worse. It is different and it is global.

    And so far as it impinges on defence policy it is a great deal different from dealing with localised home-grown terrorism.

    But that isn’t borne out by the facts either. Is it really global? In the UK the current terroist threat is still essentialy home grown, the July 7th bombers were British and it was Anglo-American foriegn policy that has helped radicalise them by creating this mythical hydra of global organised terroism (or as they saw it the demarcation of ‘them and us’, ‘west vs islam’).

    How many “global terror” attacks have we had since 2001? How many foriegn terror cells have actually made attacks in western countries since September 11th? The airline shoe bomber was british, the 7th july and the later failed bombers were british, the plot to blow up airliners transatlantic 4 years ago were home grown too. The Times square bomber was a US citizen… its “global terror” because governemnts have labelled it as such, they have joined up dots that actually were not part of the same picture (maybe in the same book…)

    Like Regan thought he was in a western or Star Wars I often thought that Bush thought he was in a Bond film. If Mr Bin Laden had a bald head and a white cat it would have helped.

    in reply to: Does the RAF operate the AEW Islander/Defender? #2410852
    pjhydro
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    You mean this one? (1st Pic) Really? Sure it wasn’t the long nosed Defender 4S AL Mk1 (2nd Pic), which was purchased for Iraq ops and were/are very secretive.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2410922
    pjhydro
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    “Terroism was also more widespread than it is today despite the USAs best efforts to tell us otherwise.”

    That’s rather disingenuous. It is surely less widespread because of the immense efforts by the “west” to contain it.

    Indeed containment of terrorism will be a factor in assessing defence needs in the years to come. And that is a very political debate, of course. I suspect that the outcome of the Review will address the realities of the world in the decades to come at the expense of what the military perceive the priorities to be.

    I don’t see why thats disingenuous, its just fact. Post 2001 terrorism, quite understandably became the USA’s number one focus. But the rest of the world had been dealing with various terroist groups for decades through the cold war, some sponsored by the USSR, some by the USA, some by other nations and the number of actual terroist incidents was far higher. In Europe terroism was a weekly occurance. It was almost “normal”, if the IRA hadn’t blown something up some red group in Germany had shot or kidnapped someone, a palestinian group had hijacked an airliner etc…happy days….

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2410959
    pjhydro
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    What has this got to do with future UK defence policy?

    Somebody made the point that things like Typhoon and CVF are called “cold War Relics” as if they have no relevance to current defence planning. I replied that actually thats “ironic” as the world was more full of these little wars we seem to assume are a post cold war occurance which they aren’t.

    The type of analysis on number and types of conflict is exactly what defence planning is based on, they don’t just make it up and hope for the best. The trend of fewer less violent conflicts is an unpalatable truth for many in the “world of defence” as it actually supports many of the political-defence assumptions made over the last twenty years that we need fewer magic bang sticks.

    You hear so often that the world is a “much more dangerous place” since 1989, that terrorism is on the increase last decade and its more deadly than ever. None of this is borne out by that actual facts. The hurtful truth is that the world is a much safer place since 1989. This has a direct baring on defence planning and spending in the UK.

    in reply to: Does the RAF operate the AEW Islander/Defender? #2410962
    pjhydro
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    Nope! Or the CASTOR-Defender either. This was a crap piece of info that was (and still might be) published in the bi-annual “British Army Pocket Book” that the AAC operated a radared Islander. It operates various islander/defender types but nothing with a survalliance radar (AEW or CASTOR).

    It was a proposal in the 80s that a squadron of CASTOR-Defender would be purchased for the AAC in Germany but it came to nothing on costs grounds and the usual interservice rivalry over who should operate it, the RAF suggesting it (the radar) should go in a canberra. In the end it became Sentinal R1.

    As for Northolt, there are two Islanders, neither appears to have a radar, certainly didn’t when I saw them land at the photo-call last weekend.

    in reply to: UK future SAR contract suspended #2412950
    pjhydro
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    But £7Bn? Don’t you find that absolutely ludicrious?

    I would assume for that sort of money hundreds of helicopters were involved.

    To be fair it is a long term programme and that does include the cost of support, engineering, training, facilities etc

    BUT…
    There will be 25-30 H92s which cost around $16 Million US a piece so straight acquisition costs of the basic hardware is going to be in the region of $500 Million US (£340 million). There are training costs and day to day running etc but given that the SAR facilities and bases already exist and there needs to be little new infrastructure built at those sites (assuming a H92 fits in the same hanger as a Sea King then it is hard to see where this money goes other than pure profit.

    It also seems outrageous that we would spend so much money on a foreign helicopter when the Merlin is in production in the UK, with training, support and facilities already built. Its not even as if Rolls Royce get to build the engines for H92 as it uses CT7-8s.

    – can you imagine the French not buying their own industries equipment for this sort of job?

    in reply to: UK future SAR contract suspended #2414107
    pjhydro
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    Two thoughts.

    The oldest HAS3 is 32 years old, younger than the Puma by miles and the last six were delivered in 92-3 so are only 17 years old.

    What about those Merlin HM1s that aren’t going to be turned into HM2s…..hmmm surely cheaper as the hardware is already paid for….?

    in reply to: UK future SAR contract suspended #2414115
    pjhydro
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    i’m just upset they won’t be building the new stonehenge visitors centre! 🙂

    Actually that is the one I was most miffed about!!

    in reply to: UK future SAR contract suspended #2414214
    pjhydro
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    Checked this to see if anything relevant was included:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10341863.stm

    So it’s all up for review. Now what about the Tanker PFI?

    You beat me to it, I just noticed that at the bottom of the list of projects suspended or cancelled along with a suspension of concept long lead items for deterent replacement….

    I have wondered why replacing HAS3 has been such a priority in the defence budget, they aren’t really that old, certainly Puma, lynx, orginal chinooks, HC4s, Gazelle are all older. As they aren’t used for heavy lift and aren’t deployed very often I have been constantly amazed that this has been such a high priority. Surely a good, in house (ala Jaguar GR3) series of rolling upgrades would be a better way forward that would delay big capital expenditure on a replacement for at least a decade? maybe i’m wrong but if the Junglies with all the beatings they have taken can keep going surely HAS3a is good for a few years yet?

    in reply to: visiting the UK in July #2414813
    pjhydro
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    wont in be lond line to the morning couches in swindon stop? if all the swindon hotels are already taken so probebly lots of ppl are attending to go by the couch bus, isn’t?

    Not nessecarily, many will take their cars they are staying in Swindon to make the journey shorter and get there nice and early. Also the hotels won’t be all booked by RIAT attendees, it is the UK summer so many people will be holidaying and while Swindon itself is not a great place it is very convenient for the surrounding countryside which is beautiful (Avebury, not too far from Stonehenge, Cotswolds an easy drive, uffington white horse etc etc).

    Also its prime wedding time so loads of hotels will be full of those, so don’t imagine the world is going to RIAT from Swindon!

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2415531
    pjhydro
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    Yes, but then the time scale is longer so it’s not really a major surprise.

    Not even that, if you count conflicts in a given year as an average, or even over a decade then the Cold war world is much more violent place. Number of deaths per conflict is down massively since the 50s. 38,000 per conflict down to 5-600.

    see http://www.hsrgroup.org/human-security-reports/human-security-report.aspx

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2415535
    pjhydro
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    Is that in fact true?

    Yes it is, very much so, despite all the hyperbole to the contrary the world is not a more dangerous place since the end of the cold war, there are fewer armed conflicts going on since 1989 than the period before. University of British Colombia gives a figure of armed conflict down 40% sine the end of the cold war. refugees are down by 45% and the number of conflicts mid last decade was 25, lowest since 1976.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4350860.stm

    http://www.hsrgroup.org/human-security-reports/human-security-report.aspx

    This has all been aided by the end of the cold war because it was only a “peaceful” period for the main protagonists, the cold war was a hot war for much of the world as the USA and USSR fought by proxy using client states.

    Terroism was also more widespread than it is today despite the USAs best efforts to tell us otherwise.

    There was also the end of empire to consider, the UK and France engaged in the most conflicts of any nation in the 20th century, even discounting the world wars. The UK is currently involved in one conflict at present. In the past that number was greater, especially as Northern Ireland was ongoing through that period.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2416077
    pjhydro
    Participant

    The irony being that there were far more minor wars and insurgencies during the Cold War than there have been since….

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2417253
    pjhydro
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    I think giving air policing/defence to the RN might help reduce duplication of role, as they would have to have “naval” airfields flying Typhoons and their replacement, and the only overlap would be between the army’s ground attack/strike platforms and the navy’s carrier embarked attack/strike platforms. Obviously some things like flight training and in-flight refueling might make more sense if carried out jointly, and the RAF Regiments would join the army, which IMHO makes sense.

    But thats the issue and part of the reason an RAF exists. Who gets priority? In a war if the RN has all the ADF assests who protects the army from air attack? The RN would argue its ports and shipping get priority surely?

    Then what about ISTAR? Whe gets the Nimrods? Well the Navy obviously but what if the Army wants to use them overland? Who gets the E3 sentries? Sentinal? Shadow? Tankers divided evenly or kept together? Whole training and support networks will be duplicated if you are not careful. Giving all air assests to the RAF solves a lot of these problems though creates others (does the RAF give two hoots about CAS and Maritime ops? for instance)

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part I #2417286
    pjhydro
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    So rather than emulate the USMC we are probably going to go down the path Canada has followed with a unified armed forces. However I believe since that policy was introduced each branch of the Canadian military as developed is own identity more and more.

    Exactly why people are saying USMC. The Cannucks are barely unified now, total fudge that was handled really badly when it was done. But that said I doubt it will happen. Which politico is going to end the Royal Navy? The Army combined with the RAF I can see, after all thats how they started out. But combine the RN into one organisation? Dr Fox would be a very brave man indeed.

    I wonder if there are any sacred cow that are immune to a combined military. Will there still be three officer training colleges or will only one survive. The tail end has pretty much been combined so it really leaves the frontline and headquarters. Regarding the latter this is an area many agree will happen but the former is going to be much more difficult. We already have joint helicopter, air defence and NBC units. Prime targets could be the RM and RAF Regiment.

    The Royal Navy and the Army, they will never combine. RM and RAF Regiment should be dedicated corps within the Army structure if you ask me. I would actually create a single multi-role Regiment to replace the RAF Rgt that had infantry, engineers, gunners, MPs etc Orgainsied into company groups to support Airfields. One company would do CSAR too.

    My main concern is that although I believe there are issues that need immediate attention in the short term, the only areas that are going to see any benefits from the SDR are those directly relevant to Afghanistan. Programmes that are actually in production should be safe or at least suffer only minor cuts, but it is going to be longer term programmes that will be dropped or delayed. The F-35 should survive but at only 60-70 purchased. In fact the RAF seems to be the major target, with the RNs major programmes such as the CVF and new FFGs safe, but the latter will have minimum impact on the budget over the next few years. So that leave further cuts in the fast jet force, probably seeing the Tornado force cut in half by 2015 as the Typhoons come on stream being totally phased out along with the remaining Harriers by 2020 with the introduction of the F-35. That would leave the UKs fast jet strength at between 9 and 12 squadrons. Barely enough to meet its existing committments but then again it has been stated that all committments bar one are up for re-evaluation.

    Likely, though there is the UCAV thang on the horizon, manned FJs days are numbered in a lot of roles and money needs to be freed up for that.

    In the end I see the UKs Armed Forces being turned into a “Fire Brigade” able to deploy force rapidly for a short term operation but not for long term operations like we are currently involved in in Afghanistan, that will be the job for others.

    But surely thats whathe UK armed forces have always been (and are at present) with the exception of the world wars, the whole reason Iraq and Afghan has broken the HMForces is they have been asked to do the job of a large continental garrison army when they aren’t one. We set out under SDR to create an expeditionary force which was acheived. It was then asked to do something completely against that doctrine.

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