Back to B-36s in the UK. The ‘Wiltshire’ B-36 (B-36H 51-5719):
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And a couple of bits in my collection, including Aileron trim tab balance weight, piece of aluminium alloy and a short length of tube with rubber hose & clamps attached:
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Strange because I’m sure Strategic Air Command was considered a great aviation film until very recently, so I’ve no idea why it’s being panned now. For a start it stars James Stewart, so that one thing means it has to be verging on perfection. And the scene where the Big Stick appears over the baseball stadium has to rank as one of the most memorable film scenes of all time!
IMHO of course.
So it could be a Soviet type or Japanese, but likely not Northrop Gamma or Lockheed Sirius, unless a great deal of redesign, modification and re-manufacture – including re-positioning wing spars in relation to fuselage structure (for what use?) was done. Or sensibly it could be some other type. Thus could we re-start from there and not get stuck on previous closed discussions?
No point getting p1ssy either – so far no-one seems to know what it is, but a few knowledgeable souls have put forth good reasons that it isn’t those so far mentioned.
And on the basis that we don’t know what we don’t know, any suggestions welcomed!
That’s the one, Saberjet. Didn’t go myself, they were collected at the time. A box of reduction cogs and a curtis prop label. Bits of the plane came down over quite an area. Never got around to getting the accident report and finding out where!
Near Lacock: mine came from digging up the bits that didn’t go to Flowers’ Yard. 🙂
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Wouldn’t be one in Chippenham would it? 🙂
Not forgetting the B-36 crash in Wiltshire.
Fortunately with no fatalities.
I still have a few bits of that one!
Well this is Spanish, low-winged and with a big radial. OK the Rata has retractable gear but the colour scheme is interesting for a start.
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Pic is from the website I think.
I can’t speak for what is the status quo now, but a complete, unfinished 146 (nose, centre section & tail section, along with wings and pylons) was delivered, and I was told that all would be displayed as an ‘exploded’ view of an airliner, with parts of it furnished and others laid bare so that the structure could be seen. It does make sense to use a scrap 146 for the ‘furnished’ bits, but I wonder of the whole will come together in future?
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Mitsubishi C5M/Ki-15 is in the ballpark – centre section/ outer wings for sure, but I can’t find anything that looks like the mystery image: also the spats with knuckles are absent from all versions I can see.
Is it me or do those outer wings scream “Gee Bee”? I know it’s not QED (or at least not in its known configuration), but I wonder if there was something similar to Time Flies that’s less well-known but also a Granville product?
Interesting that the landing gear trousers extend down from a lump on the wing leading edge: not a feature of the Northrop Alpha or Beta, but does occur on the Gamma.
Also that the centre section appears to have no dihedral while the outer wing panels do (this is a feature of Alpha, Beta and Gamma). But though that would possibly point to a modified Gamma, it’s still too ‘weedy’ for the image we’re looking at.
Sadly the spatted Lockheed Sirius has no ‘flat’ centre section so I think we can rule that out.
If it is a modified machine, I’d expect both of those features to be unavoidable areas where the original design would have been difficult to modify (why does the Gamma have those fairings – anyone?).
It’s strange that no obvious record of this aircraft survives and I’m now leaning towards a Japanese one-off or a similar Soviet creation. Philippines could easily fit – or even China 🙂
Me too John. This isn’t far away though:
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Too many differences: this is a beefy-looking machine and apart from the Sirius, Gee Bee and Gamma they’re all too puny-looking.
That colour scheme makes me think that this is a famous aircraft (or should be) and probably along-distance racer. But I’m out of suggestions. It does look like a Granville Brothers-inspired type though.
Are they really getting a BAe 146? Where’s that coming from? It’ll be great to have one on display aside from the RJX at Manchester, which incidentally is being loving restored at the moment.
Got it already: last one almost built when the line was trashed IIRC
Should be some interesting additions in the next few months/years (Freighter, F.2b, 146 etc): is the Bolingbroke restoration on view (the large bits that is)?