Nice one: my hat is off to you. Aircraft like this deserve to be preserved and it’s heartening to see.
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Mystery solved and hopefully another forgotten event & crew remembered.
Deaths registered in March, Cambs, along with three others:
Sergeant FREDERICK GEORGE COSTER (25) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Flight Sergeant ROBERT ELMS (23) Royal Air Force
Sergeant GEORGE NEWMAN (25) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Sergeant THOMAS REGINALD FREDERICK ROCH (22) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Definitely 25 OTU: Coster was WOp/AG, and confirm Newman as Obs: so maybe a Hampden crew?
EDIT: Satellite of 25 OTU also at Balderton. Can’t find an obvious Hampden, so likely to be Wellington.
Anyone have a copy of “Bomber Command Losses, Vol. 7, Operational Training Units, 1940-1947”?
CWGC supporting docs say he was with 25 OTU (Finningley), which would mean Hampden, Manchester or Wellington. It is also feasible that he died of natural causes, road accident etc.
The two Meteors, WA591 and WM167 are airworthy though offered for sale
See. http://www.platinumclassicaircraft.co.uk
Enthusiasts on this forum should be made aware (if they don’t already know) that WA591 is one of this country’s most significant airframes.
WA591, powered by two Rolls Royce Derwents, our first operational gas turbine engine, has been restored to the standard at which it was used to train RAF pilots in the 1950s.
From 2011 through 2015 the T7 has been joy to watch perform at airshows in the UK and abroad.
Surely a way can be found to keep this machine flying at the few airshows that are left in this country.
I fear we are rapidly approaching the point where our jet heritage will be relegated to dead machines behind white ropes
…and also, now that F-86A 48-178 has gone back ‘home’, WA591 is the UK’s oldest flying jet.
Warwick.
HPR Marathon.
Lyneham C-130Ks were pretty quick to be adorned. Not sure of dates though.
There seems to be a lot of confusion with BE.2s: often BE.2cs were converted to later spec but still referred to as BE.2c. Also a lot of supposed BE.2e airframes show up on photos as BE.2c or earlier. I have seen a lot of RFC returns with “Betuee” (BE.2e) but never “Betug” (BE.2g) as above: you live and learn.
As my old instructor used to say, “RTFQ!”, viz, “The key to not using the shortened term is that contemporary publications (both official RFC reports and commercial magazines) refer to other types of aircraft as, “2-strutter” (Halberstadt for example) or “single-strutter”. In that context, the term “strutter” makes no sense; or leans towards the inference that said aircraft is a single-strutter.”
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Finally remembered to reply to this: “record” refers to many primary, contemporary sources, but here’s a start:
Flight magazine of 6th July 1916, regarding the RFC enquiry, reported that,
“Mr. Pemberton-Billing [aircraft manufacturer, founder of Supermarine and Member of Parliament] continued his evidence at the meeting of the Committee on June 27th….. One of the naval pilots told him that, if he were starting on a bomb raid or reconnaissance over the enemy’s lines, and were given a choice of machine, he would select the Sopwith “1½ strutter,” with Le Rhone engine, as giving him the greatest confidence, and that he would have less confidence in the RAF [Royal Aircraft Factory] engines than in any other.”
The term is also mentioned in the “Special Qualifications” section of Air Ministry Form 60 (RFC Officer’s record card) for many personnel (again, 1916 period onwards), either as “ 1½ Strutter” or “One-and-a-Half-Strutter”. These records were maintained and updated by Air Ministry officials at the time.
It’s also referred in that way in a number of pilot’s flying log books for the 1916-1918 period, as well as a number of WW1-era semi-official publications such as rigging notes, School of Military Aviation support material; and handwritten notebooks of pupils (sources various, including IWM, RAF Museum and National Archives). The official rigging diagram does however refer to the 2-seater version as “Sopwith 2-Seater”.
The key to not using the shortened term is that contemporary publications (both official RFC reports and commercial magazines) refer to other types of aircraft as, “2-strutter” (Halberstadt for example) or “single-strutter”. In that context, the term “strutter” makes no sense; or leans towards the inference that said aircraft is a single-strutter.
Hope this clarifies.
Drop tank looks like Hunter too.
Me too! Operated MRD’s at Manston – we had a sideways-blowing (Snow Blow?) too. All with Derwent engines and all very rickety. When we decommissioned them I managed to liberate a couple of engine plates, which I still have.
That’s a jacking pad on that, it’s on its side.
Profile isn’t correct: JATO attach maybe?
Shelduck target.