I will see what the Ipswich libraries have to offer.
Can you tell me what ‘AFSA’ stands for. I have looked at the Kirtland AFB web site and nothing appears there for that acronym that I can see.
Air Force Safety Agency. However I see it’s now ‘Center’ rather than ‘Agency’:
Hi Trolly Aux, thanks for the input, there were Mustangs based there at one point, but not sure if it is Allison unless it is some sort of ducting to a Super Charger or something?
Re the Pyrotechnic idea, I guess it could be, the locking ring with the slots machined would suggest to me it was meant to be serviced at some point. The slotted nuts are in fact screws and seem to hold the internal piece in place, I can’t make any sense of it!!
If we were to go down the modern route then I would’nt think it would have that battle damage evident, there is a definate entry and a larger exit hole.
Why “battle damage” though? Munitions get fired on various airfields in the UK even nowadays, along with other locations. I know of at least one Vulcan which had explosive charges detonated on it, whilst sitting on an airfield not a million miles away from Swindon.
Munitions (rather than battle) damage maybe? Either way I think the assumption that it’s WW2 and combat-damaged may be restricting your chances of finding out what it is.
Sounds like my experience. We arrived half an hour early as well and were not allowed entry to the car park to wait for the museum to open. A most unwelcome start after a trip involving two cars, a train and a Ryan Air flight. The car park BTW was completely empty. We opted to head back into London traffic and grab a coffee somewhere…
Same here: visiting DORIS made no difference, nor did the 100-odd mile journey I’d made. Timing is not good, because who in their right mind would drive into London, aiming to arive at 10 o’clock! (unless you don’t mind wasting time in traffic).
NCP could (given common sense) charge me to park while I’m waiting. It can’t be rocket science to work out how to deter habitual commuter parking?
Anyhow, the next visit I decided to spend my money on a breakfast elsewhere and turn up later.
But maybe a 10 o’clock opening time is a bit daft in any case? 8.30 maybe?
If it’s aluminium (which it must be if anodized), then not a hyd jack: too flimsy. Hyd jacks would usually be cast bodies in any case (and then would be aluminium).
The slotted nut looks more modern than WW2, and my initial reaction was that it might be some kind of pyrotechnic?
Have you tried AFSA at Kirtland AFB? They used to supply mishap reports by email.
Newspaper reports would be with local library.
As its marked FWD seat I’m guessing not a single seater?!
Rob
Well noticed! T-33 then.
Looks F-84 to me.
Also looks like an F-86F instrument panel at centre in shots 2 and 3.
It might be due to confusion with damage caused to a large aircraft which fell from gantry hoist inside a building.The accident record card i saw many years ago says that the leading edge balloon explosive cable cutter was left armed and this severed a cable causing the aircraft to fall suffering a lot of damage.Sabotage was not suspected according to the card and this was at Salmesbury.
I hate to nitpick, but it’s ‘Samlesbury’.
In fact that’s not quite true: I quite enjoy it 🙂
Out of interest. does the “Complex” category apply to any other current UK historics? I’m thinking that the Canberra PR9 and Sea Vixen would have roughly comparable airframe/systems complexity to the Vulcan.
No: from memory the only other recent ex-miltary UK warbirds which fell into this category were the Victor, VC-10, Nimrod, Buccaneer, Harrier, Jaguar and Lightning (apologies if I missed a few). I think the hyd systems and flying controls on the Canberra and Sea Vixen place them outside of Complex. Ditto the Hunter and the F-86A (IIRC the F-86D, E, F, H, K and L are considered Complex however). Not sure about the Tucano however.
It’s a bit of a dry read, but the CAA regulation is worth a look.
So who has design authority for the various a/c at Old Warden. Gloucester Gladiator, Westland Lysander, RAF SE5, Sopwith Triplane, Percival Provost, Bristol Boxkite, Bristol M1C, Hawker Hurricane, Supermarine Spitfire, Polikarpov PO2 etc
Who is/are the Design Authority/’s for the newly built Sopwith Camel airframe and its engine?
Does every a/c need to have a modern day and current Design Authority to fly? If so who says so and why?
No DA required if aircraft operate outside of the CAA’s ‘complex’ category.
This is getting daft: there is no airframe, so anything else is just a waste of everyone’s time!
With the agreement of the current Design Authority…..probably, yes?
…but without an airframe, it would be a bit pointless, no?
Wot he said ^^^^^
It was never going to happen. It never had enough momentum to even roll slowly into the buffers.
Moggy
…or an airframe. Or any Design Authority backing.
I think Saunders-Roe’s mixed-power interceptor (SR53?) might have its bum in the photo behind the Folland Midge.
Adrian
That Midge is a Gnat.
Now THAT is a thing of beauty!