What exactly is a community museum?
Is it hangared with the rest of the Graham Adlam airforce?
Jason, the oil pot mounts on the port side of the firewall, about 3/4 of the way up; used on mk’s I – V, but may have been fitted to very early IX’s, those converted from V’s.
I can certainly see where your coming from, but from a restorers point of view, it’s not “off the end of the line” it has nothing to do with Supermarine at all; and as for the original merlin we never saw that did we, so we are unable to comment as to how much of the “core” was actually used, but using your skill and judgement (as they used to say in the cornflakes competitions) how much would you expect to be airworthy given the circumstances of the crash, and the subsequent 60 odd years buried in a salt water environment?
I would rater see a build like this Spitfire flying than not be able to see it at all, a whole squadron would be fantastic, I consider this Spit a new build off the end of the line than a copy, it would of been easy for the builders to use a later engine and also not bother with things like the U/C hand pump.
Cheers Ross, I’ve got some of the frame drgs, (not sure if I have all of them) but don’t think I have one of the spine.
I’ve been looking at you shapeways shop lots of interesting stuff in there; this new fangled technology is a bit hard for me to get my head around! perhaps you could quote me on a pair of trim wheels, postage is always going to be a factor though!
I need a drg or photo of the oil pot (see photo somewhere above) mounting on the firewall any help greatly appreciated.
TD248 obviously touched a raw nerve within the warbird community, and yes you can see why; in many respects you are right in what you say, that what is on display at Flixton has no historical merit, but if way back when the Spitfire tzar had decreed that the skinning was of equal importance as the frames as they were just (if not more) important to the structural rigidity (and integrity) of the A/C then what say you?
You can no more take all of the skins off in one go than you can take all the frames out, and not lose rigidity, and they are the bits that have the A/C recognisable identity painted on, and they bear the wounds of combat (in some cases)
Have you got a nice seat cover for the backrest?, i posted a link on the evilbay thread to one and it was not expensive. NICE work BTW 🙂
Saw that Tony, but David Collins gave me one of those a good few years ago; thanks again David.
David, the wings will join at rib 8, that is where the gun doors start, giving good internal access; they fold on the seafires (some of them) at rib 7, but even that is too wide to transport by road (about 11′ 6″) and the fold / join line is 3/4 the way through the wheel well, a very untidy, weak (no bottom boom) and awkward place to join.
I have all of the ribs outboard of 8 made and waiting patiently!
I have the formers for the tail unit (although presently out on loan) and a complete metal skinned elevator; the rear fuselage will have to be made from scratch, since the unnamed person run off with the rear fuselage frames that were sold to me…..to be truthful they weren’t that great frame 19 was quite badly damaged, and the others all suffered from stress cracks around the lightening holes; (to some degree) what comes round goes round, and as Gerry Adams was once reported to have said “we know where you live”
“we are on the same page.”
We’re not now,……..this is page 7!
A couple more of wing rib 5 including the obligatory “Here’s one I made earlier”; this is the last wing rib to make, before assembly. A nice touch is the dural bar shaped like an I beam that is inserted down the center of the top rib, that wont be hard to make…..


“I do not think future generations will thank us it because it shows original construction techniques and quality of work”.
Hardly, if all future generations have to go on are the newly built A/C that are being turned out slowly but steadily, they might wonder how 22,000+
A/C could have been built in such a short space of time, when all the fuselage frames and wing ribs are hand hammered, and all the large items are machined from solid, and assembled with the fit and finish associated with Rolls-Royce cars; the end product may appear the same, but manufacturing techniques have change completely.
Replaced the XX series blower with a two stage unit,( about three times heavier than the XX series) had to remove a couple of engine bearer tubes to get it in; gave it (and the wheel case) a coat of etch primer, then a squirt of black, even now there is condensation forming on the metal and the resulting oxidisation over winter would have to be removed. (again) the hydraulic tank has been refurbished for a while, but I have finally made the mounts, and found the drg that shows it’s exact location; time now to populate the firewall with a few trinkets, the oil pot (not strictly mkIX) is from “Gibraltar” presentation Spitfire, and even though the A/C was completely destroyed, it is virtually perfect.( and still smells of castor oil!) The repro crow bar is courtesy of forum member Bentwingbomber.




Like a faulty dyson……
It left a vacuum that has never been filled.
I would suggest Damyns Hall as a venue, (hardly central, but not far for me!) an up and coming event, who are keen to enlarge the aviation content of the show, and they love a bit of noise as well!
” could they be prosecuted under trading standards laws?.”
The corroded spitfire remains( latterly consigned to a damp shipping container), is the proverbial painting on the attic; it grows old so that the new one may stay young……