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  • in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2063673
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    Can’t wait to see the whole submarine.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2063684
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    Wasn’t it reported a while back that only Yuri Dolgorukiy would have 12 SLBMs, while subsequent units in the class would have 16?

    in reply to: PAK-FA updated info, anyone? #2556345
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    First prototype construction begun:

    Construction of First Fifth Generation Fighter Begins

    The Novosibirsk Chkalov Aviation Production Association (NAPO) has begun construction of the fifth generation multirole fighter. This work is being performed at Komsomol’sk-on-Amur together with the aircraft plant at Komsomol’sk-on-Amur, the enterprise’s general director, Fedor Zhdanov, reported today during a visit to NAPO by Novosibirsk Oblast governor Viktor Tolokonskiy.

    “Final assembly will take place at Komsomol’sk-on-Amur, and we will be carrying out assembly of the fore body of this airplane,” Zhdanov specified. The fifth generation fighter which will replace the MiG-29 and Su-27 airplanes of the previous generation, was developed by the Sukhoy design bureau.

    NAPO Chkalov also has been realizing series construction of the newest Su-34 multirole bomber since last year. According to the governor, the oblast’s government will adopt a complex of measures for supplemental governmental support to NAPO in the very near future. As of today, the most severe problem at the enterprise is personnel. In the 90s, many highly qualified workers were let go under the conditions of a slump and now time is needed for training new ones. “Our assistance will be in the resolution of personnel questions, and also in the provision of lodging for the enterprise’s specialists,” Tolokonskiy said in this connection.

    NAPO Chkalov is one of the country’s largest airplane building enterprises and is included in the Sukhoy Holding Company, ITAR-TASS notes.

    Source: 06.03.07, Izvestiya.RU

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2065430
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    ******, wrong thread. Ignore.

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2521843
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    To further beat a hopefully already dead horse, the West had all the nicest 3rd gen TI sights money could buy in Kosovo, but still had problems with weather, particularly cloud and fog/mist.
    Assets like sat imagery for fixed targets for sat guided bombs and for mobile targets use radar…

    The West didn’t have any 3rd gen TI sights back in 1999 (almost a decade ago, when you think about it). They’re a relatively more recent development- pods with third generation TI are the Sniper XR pod, the ATFLIR, and the internal system being developed for the F-35 (which is related to the Sniper XR). Their introduction has been much more recent- they’re also much more capable than earlier generation systems.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/atflir.htm

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/atp.htm (Sniper XR)

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/lantirn.htm (LANTIRN for comaprison- note the unfunded 3rd generation upgrade proposal)

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2522311
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    Russians describe Platan as “laser-TV station”, so, no FLIR.

    That’s unfortunate, I would’ve thought the Su-34 would be equipped with something more advanced than an improved Kaira system. If they’re going to be all-weather day/night capable, then they’ll have to carry SAPSAN pods- which would be something of a partial-redundancy given they’re already equipped with Platan.

    As always, there seems to be some confusion amongst the sources that is only being cleared up now- here’s what was written about Platan earlier (it may be from edefenseonline, I’m unsure, I got it fair use from some website from a google search):

    The next prototype to fly was the sixth airframe, T10V-5 (nose No. 45), which took off for the first time on Dec. 28, 1994. It was the first aircraft to receive the B004 fire-control/navigation radar developed by NPO Lenniec (St. Petersburg, Russia), a company specializing in radar systems for bomber aircraft. The B004 has a fixed, electronically scanned, phased-array antenna and is claimed to have low-probability-of-intercept (LPI) characteristics. It has several air-to-ground modes: automatic terrain following, terrain avoidance, ground mapping, ground-target acquisition/track, moving-ground-target track, and Doppler beam sharpening (DBS). It has a range of 150 km in ground-mapping mode and 75 km in DBS mode. It can track small-sized ground targets – fixed or moving – at a range of up to 30 km. In air-to-air mode, the radar can track up to 10 targets and engage up to four of them with use of R-77 active radar-homing missiles. Larger targets (such as large bombers) can be detected out to a range of about 200-250 km, and fighter-sized targets out to about 90 km. Initially, the aircraft was to have a built-in TV observation system coupled with a laser and forward-looking infrared (FLIR) camera in a pod. Later, however, TsKB Geofizyka (Moscow, Russia) developed the Platan targeting pod, with all the electro-optical devices integrated, including a second-generation FLIR sensor and a CCD TV camera, coupled with a laser rangefinder and target illuminator. The Platan pod was successfully tested for integration with Su-34 in 2004.

    Mentions of the Platan in Russian aviation media:

    http://www.royfc.com/news/jun/0603jun04.html

    In relation to the Yak-130:

    Having increased the quantity of wing suspension points to eight, there has been success in bringing the combat payload weight up to 3,000 kilograms. Guided air-to-air R-73 with infrared guidance and Kh-25 air-to-surface missiles with laser guidance and also the KAB-500Kr aircraft guided bomb, for which they suspended a pod with the “Platan” optical electron system on the 9th – fuselage – hard point have been included in the weapons compliment.

    http://www.royfc.com/news/mar/0204mar01.html

    In relation to tests on the Su-34:

    Su-34 Tests Aircraft Weapons Aimed via Satellite

    The effectiveness of the operation of guided aircraft weapons using a space satellite’s signals was tested during a regular stage of the Su-34 strike airplane’s tests, the president of Tekhnokompleks scientific and production center, Givi Dzhandzhgava reported on Tuesday, 2 March.

    According to him, during the Su-34 tests “good results were received during navigational bombing with the aid of the “Platan” complex’s optical system, and a record precision of combat use of aircraft weapons was achieved.

    “In bombing precision, the performance is approximately five times higher than normal.
    The results are commensurable with what is achieved with the use of bombs with a satellite guidance system,” Dzhandzhgava specified.

    Source: 02.03.04, Gazeta.RU

    Again the Su-34:

    http://www.royfc.com/news/mar/2604mar01.html

    The effectiveness of the operation of guided aircraft weapons using a satellite’s signals will be tested during a regular stage of the Su-34 “striker’s” tests. On bombing with the aid of the “Platan” optical system complex, a record precision of combat use of aircraft armament was achieved – approximately five times higher than the norm! At the present moment there are no such foreign strike aircraft with similar capabilities.

    NAPO’s website:

    http://www.napo.ru/eng/?id=11

    The Su-32 is equipped with a new avionics complex, incorporating:

    – a forward-looking phased-array multifunctional radar;

    – the most up-to-date ECM system;

    an optronic fire control and navigation complex incorporating a data display system, a plotter, and a laser/TV station;

    – communication facilities and other equipment.

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2522866
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    So what is Platan equipped with? I heard it had a FLIR, CCD TV camera, and a laser-rangefinder/ illuminator. Is that correct?

    How is the SAPSAN-E pod more complicated?

    Also- looking at that pic- wouldn’t that KAB-1500L (I assume that’s what it is) block the laser illuminator of the SAPSAN above it?

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2527205
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    Nice, thanks for the update.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2067579
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    I don’t get this “small displacement” thing. It’s got more displacement than a Victor SSN and it’s got around the same as an Akula. Small displacement in comparison to what? Oscars?

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2525122
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    many of the Mig-31M upgrades were aerodynamic and were significant changes. I would guess that by now the avionics upgrades will have been superceeded by improvements in technology much in the same way that the Mig-29M improvements were superceeded by improvements in technology over the same time period leading to the Mig-29M2. Perhaps a Mig-31M2 would be interesting to speculate upon…

    I’d say it’s pretty much certain it’ll be a MiG-31BM standard- i.e. the “MiG-29SMT” of the MiG-31M. Indeed, AFM seems to think so.

    Elements of the MiG-31BM specifications have been known for a while.

    A Hunter in Search of the “Invisible”

    A unique fighter interceptor, of which there are no counterparts in the world, almost written off as junk

    Russia’s air force is ready to accept the first of the upgraded high-altitude MiG-31 fighter interceptors. The other day, the Perm’ Motor Building Complex press service reported about the successful completion of the upgraded fighter’s tests. Now, through their ending, according to air force commander-in-chief, Vladimir Mikhaylov, “great prospects are opening for Russia’s air force in the area of series-built re-equipping of front-line interceptors.” The upgraded airplane is able to detect flight vehicles which are built using “stealth” ((STELS)) technology, including those flying at ultra-low altitudes, at a great distance. And the aircraft’s equipment allows simultaneously tracking 10 aerial targets and simultaneously firing at four of them. MiG-31 fighters have been the basis of the Russian air defense system’s might until recently.

    The MiG-31 was created at the end of the 1970s of the last century as a heavy upgrade of the MiG-25 and represented a high-speed, high-altitude fighter interceptor. The MiG-31 is a twin-place heavy fighter interceptor. The airplane has been executed with broad application of titanium alloys. The airplane’s takeoff weight is 48.2 tonnes, maximum flight speed is 3,000 kilometers per hour, and operational ceiling (to what extreme altitude the interceptor can be lifted) is 25,000 meters. The combat radius depending on variant of payload and flight speed is from 700 to 2,500 meters ((sic. Probably kilometers.)) It can be increased using in-flight refueling. The airplane can carry a combat payload up to 9,000 kilograms. The fighter interceptor’s main armament is air-air long-range R-37 missiles. A 30-millimeter cannon with a rotating barrel cluster in installed on the MiG-31 as a built-in weapon.

    The MiG-31 has turned out to be extremely invulnerable by virtue of its unique characteristics. Its equipment allows destroying all types of different targets – from stratospheric unmanned aerial vehicles (BPLA) of the Global Hawk ((in English)) type to cruise missiles flying at ultra-low altitudes which are implemented in stealth ((in English)) technology. Of course, the MiG-31 is inferior to the majority of modern fighters in maneuverability, but the radar’s operational range and missiles in combination with the capability to shoot at several targets simultaneously allows it to avoid closing with the enemy. The MiG-31 also is suitable for destruction of such heavily defended targets usually located far away as AWACS and Joint Starts ((both in English)) airplanes (correspondingly, with long-range radar detection and electronic reconnaissance).

    By the way, the aircraft obtained all these qualities only recently. The development of weapons and military equipment does not stand still. However, Russia simply didn’t have the funds until recently to bring the MiG-31’s combat potential to a modern level. Everything changed last year. Vice premier and defense minister Sergey Ivanov took part in air force exercises during a working trip in which a demonstration of MiG-31 capabilities was the main element of the combat drill. Availing himself of the presence of the military administration’s head, air force CinC Vladimir Mikhaylov lamented the dismal prospects of these unique aircraft: the long lack of overhaul which had drawn out the decision on the start of upgrade and as a result of it all, the possible write-off of practically all these unique aircraft as junk.

    By all appearances, the MiGs impressed Ivanov so much that within the framework of the 2006 state defense order a decision was adopted about a special investment of funds for their overhaul and upgrade. This was expressed in the overhaul of the engines and the installation onto the aircraft of new radar, weapons control systems and, in essence, the missiles. Moreover, the upgraded MiG-31 is able to strike ground targets using precision weapons – guided bombs and different types of guided missiles.

    The MiG-31’s capabilities are so broad that within the framework of the conversion, Russia and Kazakhstan even agreed to use the high-altitude fighter interceptor for placing small satellites into near-earth orbit. The project received the name “Ishim.” With the aid of the MiG-31 and the missiles installed on it, it is possible to put satellites weighing up to 160 kilograms into space at a distance up to 1,500 kilometers from the earth. The realization of the project will allow resolving missions for providing satellite communications and navigation, ecological studies, space monitoring, long-range sounding, observation of situations at the country’s oil deposits and performing cosmic sounding of the earth and its atmosphere.

    Moreover, the MiG-31 now is being offered actively for export. Representatives of the MiG corporation and FGUP Rosoboronehksport are looking at members of the so-called “Foxbat club” – that is, countries in whose inventory there are MiG-25 fighter interceptors – as the primary buyers. At the present time, besides Russia, Libya and Syria own MiG-25 fighter interceptors and reconnaissance aircraft. India stopped using MiG-25RB airplanes several weeks ago because of their physical deterioration. In connection with the fact that production of the MiG-31 already has been stopped, aircraft from the Russian air force storage bases which have been upgrade according to the MiG-31Eh project, will be offered for export. Several variants of paying for the airplanes will be proposed to the MiG-25 owning countries, including an exchange of the MiG-25 they now have for the MiG-31 with a surcharge.

    Source: 09.11.06, Strana.RU, Correspondent: Nikita Petrov

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    MiG-31 upgrade:

    VLADIMIR MIKHAYLOV: “Upgrade of Existing MiG-31 Fighter Interceptors Will Appreciably Increase PVO Combat Capabilities”

    ((Joint air force/RSK MiG tests of an improved MiG-31 variant recently ended. Upgrades will take place at the Nizhniy Novgorod Sokol plant when major overhaul takes place. Mikhaylov stated that the MiG-31 is the main PVO fighter and has enjoyed continued financing even in the worst of economic conditions. The aircraft’s new capabilities, such as extremely long radar detection range and new missiles make it a worthy adversary for fifth generation fighters and compensates for the latter’s low radar cross section. The “Zaslon” ((screen)) radar was Russia’s first phased antenna array aircraft radar is practical use, capable of detecting bombers at a distance of 200 kilometers, tracking 10 targets and simultaneously firing at four of them. The airplane is capable of autonomous and semi-autonomous operations in vast geographic regions which are not covered by ground radars. The “Zaslon” allows the aircraft to operate as a “mini AWACS,” and a group of four MiG-31 can control an airspace extending 900 kilometers and guide other types of fighters to all types of targets. Information about the actual upgrades was not reported.))

    Source: 02.11.06, Izvestiya.RU

    in reply to: Russia Cuts Back on Fifth Generation #2556165
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    Yeah Strategypage is generally full of crap.

    in reply to: A new RuAF news thread #2556786
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    NPO Saturn Developing Two Aircraft Engines Simultaneously for Future Fighters

    The Saturn Scientific Production Association (NPO) (Rybinsk, Yaroslavl’ Oblast’) is developing future aircraft engines simultaneously in two directions, an informed employee at the company has declared.

    According to him, the first direction is the upgrade of the AL-31F series-built engine, the second is the creation of a completely new aircraft engines of the next generation.

    The specialist noted that the completely new engine is being created for the purposes of installing it on the airplane being developed by OAO Sukhoy OKB, the lead developer on the future tactical aircraft aviation complex (PAK FA) program.

    At the same time, the 117S engine being upgraded, as the experts think, will be installed originally on the PAK FA during the creation of the new generation “5+” engine. Besides that, it will be installed on generation “4+” airplanes. “The 117S aircraft engine being created is intended mainly the export variant of the Su-35 fighter and the realization of the upgrade of the Russian air force fleet of Su-27,” he specified.

    The upgrade is being performed by the successive build-up of the AL-31F characteristics and perfection of its design. “The upgrade of the series-built AL-31F is being performed with maximum consideration of the scientific and technical reserve and the design operating hours on the AL-41F engine which was being created for the multirole fighter under the MFI program,” the source said.

    The 117S engine was able to raise maximum thrust from 12.5 to 14.5 tonnes in flight tests that took place on an Su-27M airplane (T10M-10). A new fan ((VENTILYATOR)) with the diameter increased from 905 millimeters to 932 millimeters, new high and low pressure turbines, a new digital control system and a vectored thrust system were used on the engine.

    ((VENTILYATOR also may be translated as “rotor”))

    Source: 29.09.06, AviaPort.RU, Correspondent: Dmitriy Kozlov

    There’s lots of news lately about Russian Strategic Aviation exercises (Tu-22M3s, Tu-160s, Tu-95MS, Il-78s, etc) but it’s not really new stuff.

    There, is, however, the Be-2500

    Both to Fly and to Swim

    The military want to build a wing-in-ground-effect vehicle of humongous size

    They have decided to revitalize a unique direction in aircraft construction at the defense ministry: the construction of wing-in-ground-effect vehicles ((EHKRANOPLAN)) – airplanes which are able to take off and land on water. Vice premier and defense minister Sergey Ivanov announced recently at a meeting of the naval board: “A federal targeted program will be created according to which Nizhniy Novgorod will manufacture wing-in-ground-effect vehicles” ((WIGs)). The designers of the Beriev aviation scientific and technical complex responded immediately and have promised to create the new ultra-heavy Be-2500 transport amphibious airplane.

    They started talking about WIGs for the first time as early as the start of the last century. The designers noted that when an airplane takes off or lands that at several meters from the surface, where there are updrafts, a “second wind” appears with the aircraft – additional lift. They called this “ground effect” ((EHKRANNYY EFFEKT)). Then an idea arose: to create an apparatus which is able to fly, while “relying” upon the updrafts, which would allow decreasing fuel consumption by several times.

    Robert Bartini began to create such an aircraft in our country as early as the ’30s – the “Red Baron.” An Italian aristocrat, a communist, he left Fascist Italy for the USSR, where he became a leading aircraft designer. Among his dozens of works was alto the VVA-14 ehkranolet ((wing-in-ground-effect vehicle)), the flight of which he never saw. Ten years in the GULAG and 5 years of deprivation of rights for “espionage for Mussolini,” from whom he once had fled, interfered.

    In the ’60s, the Nizhniy Novgorod designer, Alekseev, continued this theme. He made the first combat transport assault WIG, the “Orlenok” ((eaglet)), and then the “Lun'” ((harrier)) missile-carrying WIG, which in 1987 was adopted into the Caspian flotilla. The “Lun'” with a weight of 400 tonnes was able to race above the water with a speed of 400 – 500 kilometers per hour. It was armed with “Moskit” ((mosquito)) anti-ship cruise missiles with a length of 9.4 meters, weighing 4 tonnes and with a flight speed of 2,800 kilometers per hour which were able to strike targets at ranges up to 90 kilometers.

    The Americans called the “Lun'” the Caspian Monster for the unique combat characteristics and allocated nearly five billion dollars for development of its counterpart, which they have not been able to make up to this time. But in Russia, where two such missile carriers were built, they just forgot about them in the meantime. One “Lun'” to this day is rusting somewhere on the Caspian, and the other as well has remained standing tied up to the factory’s berth in Nizhniy Novgorod.

    In fact, these vehicles fell victim to subjectivism: one naval commander-in-chief wanted to build submarines, another corvettes, considering the WIGs a hopeless amusement. The head of the ministry of emergency situations, Sergey Shoygu, was unable finally to forget about them, having purchases several Be-200 WIGs ((sic)) for his agency, which are being used successfully for extinguishing forest fires and rescuing people on water.

    And now they have remembered the Wigs again. This time, it would seem, it also has not come about without “subjectivism” – the influence of the new naval commander-in-chief, Vladimir Masorin, is being felt. In 1996 – 2002, he commanded the Caspian flotilla, where, no doubt, he was able to get acquainted with the unique capabilities of these vehicles.

    The Be-2500 actually will be a monster – its takeoff weight is 2,500 tonnes. Useful payload is up to 1,000 tonnes. Wing span is 125 meters, length is 115 meters and height is 29 meters. Cruising speed at altitude is 770 kilometers per hour, and in ground effect is 450 kilometers per hour. For comparison: wing span of the Boeing 747 is 64.4 meters, the airplane’s length is 70.6 meters, and height is 19.4 meters.

    …And so, it is possible, the Russian WIGs will be luckier in the new century than in the last. If, of course, some kind of regular “change of commander” once again does not turn this unique direction in aviation into a “hopeless amusement.”

    Source: 28.09.06, Moskovskiy Komsomolets, Correspondent: Ol’ga Bozh’eva

    A new primary trainer jointly developed with China on the basis of the Yak-152?

    Agreement May Be Signed Before Year’s End on Joint Development of New Training Airplane Based on Yak-152

    The signing of documents with China at the end of the year is possible for the joint development of a new primary training airplane based on the Yak-152, a source in the defense industrial complex reported to Interfax-AVN.

    “Negotiations are advancing rather successfully, and one may expect that we will come to definite understandings on the creation of the new training airplane at the end of the year,” the agency source said.

    According to him, China is very interested in an airplane of the Yak-152 type. It is planned to use it mainly for training airmen of the Chinese air force, and also civilian pilots.

    Source: 26.09.06, Interfax

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2039982
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    No, Lazarev didn’t have any accident. Simply, she was due to have owerhaul, meaning she had to go to Baltic or Severodvinsk, as their are no such facilities in Far East. The funds were short at that time, so she was put in reserve till better times. New missile on Nakhimov may be limited to installation of new SAMs.

    I think the Granits are getting upgraded. It may be earlier on the thread or somewhere else, but the articles said the new missiles Nakihmov would be getting were also planned for the Pr. 949 Oscar IIs- that means Granits.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2040227
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    has anybody informations about russian submarines?Is it really that they have 20 subs “brothers” of Kursk???also does anybody know the deduction of the Kursk wreck??

    20?! No. They originally planned to build 12. 11 were built, the last is still under construction but is unlikely to be commissioned in the Russian Navy, according to Defense Minister Ivanov. Of those, several are in reserve pending refit/refuelling etc, and the Kursk was of course lost, so the most that could ever be in service at one time are 10. The actual number in service is probably 6.

    Its a shame is “Admiral Lazarev” being scrapped, The russian navy must maintain at least for 15 years 3 Kirovs, (VELIKI, modernized NAKHIMOV & LAZAREV) nad four slavas (MOSKVA, USTINOV, BARIAG, and the newest LOBOV”, Ushakov should be scrapped of mutch better to preserved as museum ship. These seven cruisers are the only ships of russian navy which have area defence capability, (100km) due to S-300s, I can’t understand why some members said that the russian navy doesn’t need them . Further more the slavas are Gas turbined as well as Udaloys and can be used for “saw the flag” operations.

    Too expensive. Note however I am speculating that Lazarev will be scrapped, I’m not certain. I found it on Google Earth, and posted about it on the google earth thread:

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=942300&postcount=313

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=942301&postcount=314

    Admiral Lazarev is currently at Bolshoy Kamen, near both Vostok and Zvezda Shipyard. Older news placed her elsewhere, in Abrek Bay (aka Abrek Cove)- but she was obviously moved at sometime since those reports. It may have something to do with the fire that was reported on Lazarev several years ago.

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