VympelThey need to spread the funding around. If they don’t, the shipyards will close from lack of work and they’ll lose defence infrastructure. Surface ships are definitely an integral part of the Navy, subs can’t do everything.
VympelThe R-27P/R-27EP are not prospective programs, by the way, the missile is offered for export.
VympelVympel , The Talwar Frigates were delayed due to problem with its Shtil-1 and since it was a commercial deal there was a penalty clause for the delay , The penalty ran into many millions of Dollars which is being adjusted for the next 3 Talwar Firgate under order.
I am sure the Chinese must have similar arrangemnt incase it gets delayed beyond point.
I dont know what kind of arrangement the RuN have with their shipbuilder , do they have any kind of penalty in case of delays.
Whats very sad to hear is that the Russian MOD is not much interested in the new Severodvinsk SSN , there has been no news on that except for the Navy Chief statement that it will be launched in 2007 along with Borei . I just hope they just dont stop at one and go ahead with series production of 6 SSN as was planned.
Infact they did say recently that the Future Naval fleet will have 3 Type of N-Sub , Borei ,Severodvinisk and a New 6000 Ton SSN to provide cover to Borei.
It’s funny that they call a 6,000t displacement sub a “small” sub, but really, that’s the displacement of the Victor SSN- not an insignificant sub design by any means (the 671RTMK, the last variant made, is still a great sub).
I don’t think the Severodvinsk is dead, it’s just that the priority is the Borei’s currently- note the article says “at present” and talks about funding for 2006. It’s probably primarily an issue of numbers first and they’ve got plenty of SSNs. Including new Akulas (the just-finished Nerpa, likely to be followed by the Kaban).
VympelGood article, Austin- reminds us that though there’s plenty of reason to be optimistic about the Russian Navy for the future, there’s still a long ways to go in terms of funding. I find the reasoning that funding is sufficient but the shipbuilders are delaying completing to “live off” the project not very convincing- the shipbuilders seem to have no problem in delivering Kilo SSKs or Sovremenny’s or Talwar frigates more or less on time and schedule, compared to the multi-year delays the Russian Navy has endured. The problem is funding. Delays will continue to happen in the new shipbuilding, but things are definitely getting better. This is an unprecedented time of new ship and submarine building, as well as some ships that had their completion delayed finally being finished.
VympelOffboresight is not as important as flare resistance. Does the R-73 use a cryogenically cooled multi element, multi-spectral seeker? I don’t know. I heard reports that the R-73 is easy to decoy but that may be early production. Products do improve batch by batch, as improvements are incorporated into later production. In June 2006, there is said to be an upgrade that will be made available to existing R-73 users.
As I understand it, the current R-73 variant is the digital R-74?
VympelThe F-18F and F-16E are armed with IRIST or Sidewinder AIM-9X that makes them literaly as good as a Su-30MKI armed with R-73
Armament wise, yes, but not performance wise. The Super Hornet’s performance is nothing to write home about, and the F-16E is the ultimate expression of the F-16s transition to a light-weight ground-attack & WVR AA combat fighter to an overweight multi-role fighter laden with extra equipment and continually increasing the thrust to compensate for all the additional weight, while the wing loading gets ever higher.
VympelIs this Platan?
I highly, highly doubt it. For one, the FLIR ball looks like a UOMZ design- their targeting pod is SAPSAN, where as Platan is Geofizika. Not to mention that I can’t imagine how such a structure would fit on an Su-34, never mind a Yak-130 or other aircraft Platan will be intergrated with. Expect it to resemble any other FLIR targeting pod in general shape and layout.
VympelIs the Zhuk-MF even ready? Certainly the Zhuk-A isn’t.
VympelYeah right, the J-10 being comparable to the Eurofighter Typhoon. You’ve got to wonder if they know anything at all about the Typhoon, Rafale and J-10 apart from them all vaguely resembling each other by sight. The early-block F-16C comparison is far more accurate.
VympelAlready posted in the RuAF news thread. Please put all such posts in that thread from now on, so we don’t ever need to go looking if we want to check something later. 🙂
VympelWhy not buy Russian? The French army are buying Russian laser guided artillery shells. The Russians designed them to be compatible with NATO laser marking gear.
In the anti radiation range the Russians have a very broad spectrum of weapons, from the 300kg Kh-25 series with a range of 40km up to the 600kg Kh-31 with a range of 110km in the old version, plus the AS-11, also in the 600kg range with a 120km range.
Kh-58 has a longer range than that, IIRC?
Of course if you really have to spend the extra money and buy something from the west if you want an existing proven design then you can’t go past ALARM… unless the US choose to give you HARM for free.
The problem with HARM though is that it’s crap compared to stuff like ALARM in terms of intelligence and Kh-31 & Kh-58 in terms of range.
VympelLooking at the radome- wow, this fighter has a really tiny radar.
Vympel58 Su-34s by 2015:
Russian Federation Air Force to Obtain 58 Super Modern Su-34 Airplanes before 2015
((This week’s roll-out of the first series-built Su-34 tactical bomber has caused, yet again, a stir in the Russian press, especially Vice Premier Sergey Ivanov’s announcement that the air force will receive 58 of the aircraft over the next 8 years. Titles and sources of articles follow, including pertinent extracts, if any.)) Source: 07.07.06, RIA Novosti
Russian Federation Air Force to Obtain 58 Super Modern Su-34 Airplanes before 2015,
((Same title as previous article and repeats the first two paragraphs.)) Source: 07.07.06, VzglyadThe First Su-34 Is Here, Delivery of 24 Su-34 is planned by 2010. Source: 07.07.06, Kommersant-Novosibirsk
The Russian Su-34 “Terminator” Shown to Military, The Su-34 is intended to replace not only the Su-24, but also the Tu-22M3. The test location for this particular aircraft is classified. According to Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Mikhaylov, it is planned to purchase 10 aircraft a year after 2008. Source: 07.07.06, Finansovye Izvestiya, Correspondent: Konstantin Antonov
The Su-34. Aviation’s Combat Aircraft, Source: 07.07.06, Vesti.RU, Correspondent: Dmitriy Ivanov
VympelThe “Akula” Is Taking Off
The Progress Aviation Plant (Arsen’ev, Primor’e) will resume production of Ka-50 and Ka-52 helicopters, known as the “Black Shark” and “Alligator”
The chief of a section of the defense industrial committee for regional administration of industry, Gennadiy Kiva, reported yesterday that a decision has been adopted at the federal level on unfreezing construction of several combat vehicles.
Right now the Russian Federation ministry of industry and energy, defense ministry, ministry of economic development and transportation ministry are coordinating the state defense order for 2007 and deliveries of combat equipment within the framework of the state arms program to 2015.
Mr. Kiva did not report how many helicopters will be built this year (according to Gudok information – not fewer than three.) The first “Black Shark” may be lifted into the air as early as August, which the company’s 70th anniversary will be noted. Progress has not produced the Ka-50 for several years in connection with the absence of funds at the defense ministry.
Source: 06.07.06, Gudok, Correspondent: Pavel Usov
and
They Will Lift the “Black Shark” into the Air
Construction of Ka-50 has resumed at Arsen’ev’s Progress
((Yak-54 training airplanes and possibly Yak-152 primary trainers also to be built at Progress. Total defense order at the plant is increasing 13-fold. Title says the rest. Not further translated.))
Source: 06.07.06, Kommersant-Khabarovsk, Correspondent: Vladimir Kargin
13x fold increase in defense order at Progress plant. Interesting.
Meanwhile, the Su-34:
They Will Roll Out First Series-Built Su-34, Assembled for Russia’s Air Force, onto the NAPO V.P. Chkalov Factory Field
The first Su-34 airplane has been assembled as a state defense order line item at the Novosibirsk V.P. Chkalov Aircraft plant, which is included in the Sukhoy Holding Company. They will show the airplane today to factory personnel and journalists.
The twin-seat Su-34 fighter bomber is intended for the resolution of combat missions against aerial, ground, maritime and surface targets (including small-sized and moving), during the performance of autonomous and group actions by day and night, in good and poor weather conditions and in jamming conditions created by an enemy, and of fire and information countermeasures, and also aerial reconnaissance. In the future, the Su-34 is supposed to be the basic Russian air force tactical aviation airplane and to replace completely the Su-24 and Su-24M airplanes.
It is planned that NAPO should deliver a whole air regiment to the forces by 2010 – this is 24 modern airplanes. The first two Su-34 will be transferred to Russia’s air force as early as the fall of this year.
Source: 06.07.06, Sukhoy Aviation Holding Company
VympelPAK FA flight not earlier than 2009, not 2007:
When Will PAK FA First Flight Take Place?
At the suggestion of air force commander-in-chief, General of the Army Vladimir Mikhaylov, reports have appeared repeatedly in the press that the fifth generation fighter which is being built for the Tactical Aviation Future Aviation Complex (PAK FA) program will make first flight as early as 2007. At the request of AviaPort.RU, an informed source, who has a direct relationship to the rearming of the Russian air force with new combat aviation equipment, commented on the situation with the creation of the new airplane.
The source noted that even in Russia’s state arms program for the period 2007 – 2015 that has been adopted, the lifting into the air of the PAK FA fighter complex is not foreseen. Moreover, as Russian Federation defense minister Sergey Ivanov noted recently, the PAK FA fighter complex’s first flight will take place not earlier than 2009.
The fighter’s draft design was defended last year. There is work still to come on the development of the fighter’s detailed design ((RABOCHIY PROEKT) and the construction of its prototype. “In fact, the time for building the PAK FA depends in many ways also on the financial resources of the developer – OAO Sukhoy OKB and the developers of the avionics and armament,” the source noted.
According to his information, besides financing the program for creation of the PAK FA from a line item of the state defense order from state budget funds, the developers oaf the fighter, equipment, systems, components and armament are supposed to finance the program from their own resources, including too borrowed funds. In particular, besides the technical complexities in connection with the need to master new materials and technologies, the possibility of some prolonging of the periods of the fighter’s first flight is being concealed.
As reported earlier, air force CinC V.A. Mikhaylov announced at the start of this year that he has given orders to aircraft developers to lower the prescribed speed from Mach 2.15 to Mach 2 in order to guarantee a gain in other characteristics thanks to it. In the opinion of Sukhoy OKB managers, there is a need for further optimization of the requirements for the PAK FA, and a reduction of the maximum speed to Mach 2 instead of Mach 2.15 will not require the development of a number of systems and simplify somewhat the resolutions of tasks for creation of the complex, but will not reduce the complex’s combat effectiveness.
Source: 05.07.06, AviaPort.RU, Correspondent: Dmitriy Kozlov
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