Do any other countries operate armed Pilatus PC-9M’s ?
If so, what weapons do they carry ?
Pics ?
Perhaps Australia wants these aircraft, etc. to keep the Kiwis out 😀
Seriously though, from my time in Oz last year, most folk there would rather NOT be a part of ‘George (Dubya) Bush’s crusade’ !
Although, it seems part of the Australian psyche is that the US saved them for Japanese invasion during WWII – don’t forget the Japanese managed to bomb Darwin.
How much longer can the RAAF F111’s last ?
Are they now the sole operator of the F111 in the world ?
For new IAC PC-9M (armed) pics, plus video footage – go to http://www.irishairpics.com, then click on the ‘weapons firing videos and pictures’ thread.
The Air Corp’s PC-9M’s will be much in demand on the airshow circuit this year, what with at least 4 local shows and numerous foreign visits ! 🙂
Military aviation began in Ireland in 1913.
Eight aerodromes were established in 1917 including Baldonnel, which is still home to the Irish Air Corps.
It would be great to see a ‘trainer aircraft’ section – British, Irish, French, Belgian, Dutch etc. etc.
Irish Air Corps PC-9M’s attended a ‘Trainer Meet’ in Belgium (or was it Holland?) last year, but it was not open to the public. Saw some pics and it looked great !
It would be a bit different to the usual F-16’s, etc….
my 2 cents.
Panther.
No. We would have no more use for armed turboprop aircraft as we would for skyhawks.
The UN might help finance the peacekeeping duties we perform, but they don’t pay for body armour or armoured vehicles or other equipment. Making sure our boys (and girls) have proper body armour is more important to me (and them) than having a few glorified cessnas with miniguns flying around looking like tossers with nothing to actually do except look pretty.
Obviously, equipment for troops serving abroad is a priority (as is also the case here in Ireland).
However, an armed turboprop has many uses within any miltary force which has no other armed aircraft, e.g. Training with Army and Navy units, Anti-smuggling Ops, Patrolling air exclusion zones (as required) etc. etc.
For example, didn’t the RNZN hire civilian jets to overfly it’s ships to perform simulated attacks ???
Indeed the RNZAF (which has a proud fighter pilot history) must have felt like it had it’s b*!!# cut off when the combat wing was disbanded !
So I take it there are no plans to introduce any other armed aircraft (e.g. Turboprop) to RNZAF service ?
Actually, the Ohakea museum had a fuselage inside the museum (C47 perhaps?) which was converted into a mini-cinema – with great action footage of the Skyhawks on show !
I also really liked the ‘simulators’ at the Wigam Museum (new name?) – they had a Spitfire, Skyhawk, and Macchi ‘simulator’ for visitors to try out ………. and it wasn’t just kids getting into them either 😀
Incidentially, has a RNZAF aircraft (or RNZN ship) ever visited Ireland ?
Hi Dave,
Yes, the IAC has a low profile in Ireland which doesn’t help it’s case. However, on the positive side they recently took delivery of their new PC-9M turboprops and a helicopter tender contract was recently signed which will see Eurocopter EC-135’s and Agusta AB139’s coming into service over the next few years – replacing our (workhorse!) 40 yr old Alouette III helis.
I didn’t see a C47 at Ohakea when I was there. The only aircraft on display were a Skyhawk, a Macchi (and another older jet-it’s name eludes me just now?).
When did they drop the ‘Air Force World’ name (it was still there last August when I visited) ?
I was going to mention the RNZN – I recall reading about the contract when I was in Arthur’s Pass in October. Circa $550 million is to be spent on new ship if I recall correctly ? (Indeed, some of the ships will be of the same design as the new Irish Navy ships).
Actually, the exact same thing happened here over the last few years, the Army got new equipment first, then the Navy and (finally!) the Air Corps has started to get it’s fleet replaced ?!
I’m surprised that the RNZAF are being so neglected. I really began to understand the area they have to cover when I visited The Cook Islands – over 15 islands spread over a huge area, and all part of the RNZAF’s coverage area !
Not to mention the other pacific islands they assist, and the huge pacific ocean SAR area they patrol.
Actually, what exactly is the size of their SAR area over the pacific (map) ?
Where does it end and (I presume?) the U.S. Coastguard’s area begins ?
Panther.
Hi Dave,
I’ve just been looking at the nztv ‘Air Force’ info – looks like a good programme………pity it’s wasn’t on tv last year when I was living in NZ ?!
It sounds like the RNZAF have the same PR problems as the Irish Air Corps (IAC) – i.e. small force, doing a great job with limited resources AND sometimes belittled because it no longer operates jets.
(The IAC operated a fleet of Super Fouga CM170R Magister jets until 1999 as part of it’s Light Strike Squadron. They have now been replaced with Pilatus PC-9M turboprops which, while just as capable as the Fouga’s, haven’t got the ‘cache’ of jet aircraft).
I visited two RNZAF museums last year, the one in Ohakea and Air Force World in Christchurch – both are excellent !
I also visited the Fighter Pilot museum in Wanaka – some cool aircraft there too !! (Was saddened to hear about the Fouga crash, as I hoped to view it during my visit).
Is there another air force museum in NZ ?
Regards,
Panther.
I agree PaulR !
Seeing ‘161’ in Irish skies again would be brilliant !!
Cool website there milavia !
I will send you some pics after the shows.
I may also have some pics of armed Irish Air Corps PC-9M’s in action !
(They recently weapons-tested their new PC-9M fleet).
The Salthill Airshow is always brilliant – plus it’s a free show, which is always a bonus ! 😀
The displays mostly take place over the scenic Galway Bay.
Also, the Irish Navy usually have a patrol ship anchored in the bay, while the Irish Army, Civil Defence and Coast Guard have many land-based displays which all add greatly to the day.
The Bray airshow is new and looks promising !
Regards,
Panther.
Afganistan should only be supplied with transport helis and planes for the moment.