RE: PIM FORTUYN has been SHOT
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 07-05-02 AT 05:38Â PM (GMT)]Killing somebody because he’s got another opinion is wrong. No discussion about that. Pim Fortuyn was also very popular in the Netherlands, and eventhough he has made some racist comments, he’s not at all like Le Pen.
Next week there are going to be parliamentary elections. It is expected that – even now the frontman is gone – the “lijst Fortuyn” will still win the elections and that Fortuyn may become prime minister, even though he’s dead!!! Coup de theatre. It sounds like an unrealistic scenario, but Fortuyn became in 6 months to most popular man in Holland and also in Belgium. 30 minutes in the news about Fortuyn, programs are interrepted for newsflashes, that hasn’t even happened during our own darkest hours (dioxin crisis, dutroux-crisis …).
Anyway, I wouldn’t have voted for Fortuyn because I simply don’t agree with his radical right comments. But still, he was a very remarkable person, and he will remain in the hearts of many Dutchmen (and Europeans).
It’s a sad day for democracy, because this was the first time in Dutch history someone was killed for his believes. I think the 15-may elections will be even more weird than in France.
Ohh and Djcross, the murderer was indeed a “greenie”, but he acted alone.
RE: PIM FORTUYN has been SHOT
There are no supspects yet, and it has nothing to do with greenies before you all start. All political parties in Holland said they were 100 % against this terrible attack. Dealing with Pim Fortuyn doesn’t mean ‘killing’ him, in a civilised democracy you can also defeat your opponent with words (even if they are extreme).
RE: PIM FORTUYN has been SHOT
The Dutch right-wing politician Pim Fortuyn has been shot and critically wounded.
I have understood he is in critical danger
Warmer Dam, Lijst Fortuyn spokesman
A spokesman for his party, Lijst Fortuyn, said he was not likely to survive.
Police say Mr Fortuyn was shot six times and suffered multlple wounds in the chest and neck.
He was attacked as he left a radio studio in the central Dutch city of Hilversum after giving an interview.
‘Militant figures’
“I have understood he is in critical danger. At this moment it looks like he will die within 10 minutes or half an hour,” said Warmer Dam, spokesman of the Lijst Fortuyn party which Mr Fortuyn leads.
Eyewitnesses have spoken of seeing militant-type figures at the media park where the Dutch station is located.
“I saw Pim Fortuyn lying on the ground with a bullet wound in his head,” said television reporter Dave Abspoel.
The reporter said four people chased the gunman, who apparently fired in their direction.
But the BBC’s Geraldine Coughlan in The Hague says it would have been difficult to gain access to the park which is tightly monitored.
Elections
Mr Fortuyn’s anti-immigration party made surprising gains in recent elections.
The party has been predicted to do well in the forthcoming general elections in nine days time, with polls giving him 15% of the vote.
Mr Fortuyn provoked public indignation by calling for the Netherlands’ borders to be closed to foreigners and by describing Islam as a ‘backward’ religion.
RE: Elections in France #2
82 % for Chirac
Vive la republic
Vive la France
Vive l’Europe
RE: I am new here…..
The 777 rocks indeed, when there aren’t any A-330’s available.
RE: Favourite Band?
Tony en de hangmatten :7 :7
No serious,
Rammstein, Slipknot, “where did I leave my gun”???? :7 Ohh, I also like Rolling Stones, and Dire Straits. As long as it doesn’t sound like our washing machine (House, Techno).
RE: News of the future
No way, Jebba Bush is gonna be president in 2030!! (is Jebba the hot blond one??? :9). By that time; the democrats will already be so desperate they’ll chose Britney Spears as candidate for the elections.
RE: News of the future
Sister act
20.02.33: THE SO-CALLED ‘Power of Three’, the women who rule the mightiest nations on Earth – America, Europe and China – ended a critical summit in Geneva yesterday with agreement on an eight-point plan to restore economic and environmental stability against a backdrop of gathering global crises.
Chelsea Clinton, the US president, warned that environmental catastrophe was now the most serious threat to world prosperity. The message was repeated by the European president, Robina Sharma of the Netherlands, who insisted that world poverty was now affecting parts of the EU.
The key breakthrough came when Clinton withdrew her country’s claim that it suffered more widespread poverty than sub-equatorial Africa and that it should receive international aid. After an eight-hour session extending deep into the European night, she accepted the argument of Sharma and the Chinese leader, Wang Ying, that poverty should be assessed only on criteria of absolute deprivation (access to food, water, shelter and education) and not by comparison between the richest and poorest members of a particular society such as the US.
It paved the way for the “Balance Plan”, which Clinton described as “probably the most important document in our planet’s history”.
The treaty represents a two-pronged attack on the worldwide problems of poverty, environmental degradation and violent unrest. On the one hand, the three powers will share intelligence and jointly strengthen their defences to keep a lid on revolutionary disorder; on the other hand, they will mount an unprecedented assault on the environmental and economic pressures at the root of international discord.
Most importantly, they have agreed to a doubling of humanitarian relief and an urgent review of global debt problems.
“This is absolutely fundamental to our purpose,” said Sharma. “Many countries in Africa are spending twice as much on debt repayments as they are on health and education combined. Despite the Hosanna Fund and all the other relief efforts following the ’31 disaster, families still abandon their children because they can’t afford to feed them.”
There was also talk of a new role for the United Nations and World Bank, institutions that have fallen into disrepute in the 21st century. More controversial is the promise of a comprehensive world trade review. With 75% of trade controlled by only 100 international corporations, the three will face formidable opposition from big business to any deal that surrenders power to local governments.
The treaty also gives new impetus to the fight against global warming. There will be a tripling of research and development funding for renewable energy programmes and heavy tax penalties on users of fossil fuels. The talks were seen by many as the first major meeting of a global federation, ie, world government.
“Is this common sense or just female hot air?” commented Russian President Igor Kuznetsov.
RE: News of the future
UN collars the dog soldiers
20.08.45: A POLITICAL STORM erupted last night as the United Nations’ top soldier criticised EuroCorps’ latest recruitment campaign.
For the first time, the head of the UN Intervention Force, General Patrick O’Rourke, condemned EuroCorps for recruiting mercenaries instead of building up an ethos of global public service.
The biggest armies include EuroCorps, AmeriCorps, ChinaCorps and troops from India and Latin America – all provide troops for the UN.
O’Rourke is concerned at the number of private armies contracted to leading corporations, and their ability to recruit the best candidates.
Trouble arose when the EuroCorps’ FreeNet brochure went live last week, emphasising links between Europe’s military force and the world’s top 10 private armies. Recruits were promised frequent secondments and prospects of lucrative careers after their seven-year terms.
EuroCorps’ HQ in Mons last night admitted that it was having trouble recruiting top-quality entrants in the face of the high pay offered by companies such as Britain’s SAS plc and the Paris-based Foreign Legion. The only way out was to provide clear links with these groups, but this risked the criticism that public money was being used to train mercenaries.
The row goes to the heart of the global controversy over private/public security control. O’Rourke and other UN professionals want a powerful UN force, very much in the spirit of the 2033 Balance Plan and completely independent of the numerous private armies.
However, they remain opposed to economic elements of the plan, even though early indications are that the world economy is stabilising and crime and violence falling rapidly. PR
RE: News of the future
Russia in ruins after nuclear mayhem
07.03.03: THE WORLD remains stunned by the suddenness and savagery of the nuclear civil war that has devastated large areas of Russia. A clearer picture of the events was beginning to emerge yesterday as it appeared a ceasefire had been agreed, according to sources in Washington and Moscow.
In the wake of the first large-scale nuclear conflict, details of strike and counter-strike have been elusive, as a total news blackout dampened satellite communications.
Political and military observers believe that the main cause of the conflict is the failure of the Russian wheat and potato crops last summer. But the catalyst was Moscow’s announcement that it could not pay the Volga-Ural region’s armed forces for a further six months.
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Following his armed coup last week, General Anatoly Sergeyev has assumed the role of military governor in the region in central Russia. His first move was to block all tax revenue transfers to Moscow, threatening an all-out crisis in the Russian economy.
On Sunday, the president of the Russian Federation, Igor Kerensky, gave Sergeyev a 48-hour ultimatum to stand down. The general ignored the threat, and conventional bombing raids against Volga-Ural began. It was during one of these raids that a missile hit the chemical weapons store near Tyumen late on Tuesday night, releasing VX and sarin nerve gases, which killed more than 3,000 people.
Sergeyev, who had led the Russian forces in previous Chechen conflicts, immediately retaliated, using his ageing force of Backfire-C nuclear bombers for raids on Russian air bases around Moscow early Wednesday morning. Many planes were lost but five bases were destroyed with Hiroshima-sized tactical nuclear bombs, killing tens of thousands of people in and around the bases. According to Kremlin sources, President Kerensky ordered an escalation to strategic weapons. As former head of Russian strategic rocket forces, he almost certainly recognised the vulnerability of his meagre stock of missiles to further attacks.
Later on Wednesday, 14 Topol-M ICBMs were fired at air force and army bases near cities in the Volga-Ural region. Yekatarinburg suffered the greatest losses.
Early reports indicate a death toll in excess of 250,000, with more than 80,000 square kilometres of land contaminated by radioactive fallout.
An emergency meeting of the UN Security Council is tonight expected to offer a mediation team to try to stabilise the ceasefire. Even if that holds, it is already clear that the federation risks disintegration.
Kerensky agreed to the ceasefire with the Volga-Ural rebels only when threatened with a further nuclear strike on Moscow by the Far East Region military commander, Admiral Illya Kropotkin.
He has the Pacific Fleet’s only operational Typhoon missile submarine which was ordered to sea yesterday with its full complement of 20 RSM-52 multi-warhead missiles, giving Kropotkin the ability to destroy much of western Russia.
Aid has already started to arrive in the region. PR
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RE: News of the future
Big 3 in crisis talks
19.09.44: AMERICAN PRESIDENT Charles Wainwright, Erik Schmidt, president of Europe, and Zan Ling, leader of China – dubbed the Three Wise Men – met yesterday to discuss the crisis in the Far East.
Tension has been growing between Japan and China since the revival of the Japanese economy and the rise of so-called neo-Stalinism in Russia.
There is also increasing concern about the sustainability of the eurodollar. Europe has been pressing for higher interest rates to head off what is seen in several countries, notably Germany, as a growing inflationary danger. But America says that such fears are not soundly based.
“Alan Greenspan must be turning in his grave,” said one US commentator.
The eurodollar’s problems have headed off plans for a single world currency, but they remain on the drawing-board.
The exclusive focus on global exchange issues marks a shift in style for international summit meetings.
“We’re getting down to some real politics again after all that touchy-feely stuff,” said a White House press spokesman, in a reference to recent summits when all three world leaders were women. DS
RE: I am new here…..
KabirT? He’s a civil aviation freak and an Indian.
Anyway, welcome on board
RE: Kosovo
BTW Ink is right of course… the FK U was for the EU… Geforce has an excuse for not really knowing what is going on… the EU however should.
I can live with that, if that makes you happy 🙂
RE: Something funny…..
Yesterday
Yesterday,
All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my database has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There’s not half the files there used to be,
And there’s a milestone hanging over me
The system crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong
What it was I could not say.
Now all my data’s gone
and I long for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my data was all here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.
Let it Be
When I find my code in tons of trouble,
Friends and colleagues come to me,
speaking words of wisdom:
Write in C.
As the deadline fast approaches,
And bugs are all that I can see,
Somewhere, someone whispers:
Write in C.
Write in C, Write in C,
Write in C, oh, Write in C.
LOGO’s dead and buried,
Write in C.
I used to write a lot of FORTRAN,
For science it worked flawlessly.
Try using it for graphics!
Write in C.
If you’ve just spent nearly 30 hours,
Debugging some assembly,
Soon you will be glad to
Write in C.
Write in C, Write in C,
Write in C, yeah, Write in C.
BASIC’s not the answer.
Write in C.
Write in C, Write in C
Write in C, oh, Write in C.
Pascal won’t quite cut it.
Write in C.
IMAGINE
Imagine there’s no Windows,
It’s easy if you try.
No fatal errors or new bugs
To kill your hard drives.
Imagine Mr. Bill Gates
Leaving us in peace!
Imagine never-ending hard disks,
It isn’t hard to do.
Nothing to del or wipe off
And no floppy too
Imagine Mr. Bill Gates
Sharing all his money.
You may say I’m a hacker,
But I’m not the only one.
I hope someday you’ll join us
And your games will fit in RAM
Imagine 1-Giga RAM
I wonder if you can.
No need for left-shifts or set-ups
And no booting again and again.
Imagine all the systems
Working all life-time!
You may say I’m a hacker,
But I’m not the only one.
Maybe someday I’ll be a cracker
And then I’ll make Windows run.
Man, this is really humour for nerds :7
RE: Beer of next Week
My favourite beer of the week is … whatever i’ll drink tonight. Quality is not important, as long as there’s enough of it.
I already placed a bucket next to my bed, in case … :7