GeforceOriginally posted by Comet
That’s what I call justice. At least you have to agree, it is the only proven method of preventing re-offending! That thing will not kill any more children will it?And as for “human” rights, I think it’s time that the terrorist-loving “human” rights fraternity gave more consideration to the victims of the criminals. Law abiding people have a right to go out without being mugged, or without fearing they will be attacked. Pensioners have a right to feel safe in their own homes without some drug crazed scum braking in and robbing them to get money for their next fix.
In my home town it was on the news yesterday that a piece of scum had gone on trial for robbing two old ladies, aged 73 and 83 (I bet that made it feel tough!) What makes me mad is that the “human” rights brigade will oppose any proper punishment for this piece of scum, it will get away lightly and do the whole thinga again to someone else. The police are not brutal enough, if they literally kicked the sh*t out of scum like this, instead of mollycodlding them, then they would much likely think twice before offending. The state of the country, as far as crime is concerned, can be blamed entirely on organisations such as Amnesty bloody International and Liberty, with their “be nice to criminals and to hell with the victim” mentality.
Ofcourse, who needs amnesty international. Bunch of crybabies.
Maybe we should introduce the Taleban laws again, that will help lower the crime rates in the UK. Public executions on Trafalgar square, boy I’m looking forward to that. And it will also prevent women who are too opinionated (ie you) to share their poisened ideas with others. Amnesty International is fully to blame. Comet, that’s about the most stupid thing I’ve heard in a long, long time. Are you deeply frustrated because you don’t have a penis so instead you try to be as macho as possible? Stay away from Belgian beer, lady, it’s killing your grey cells. I’m sure you would be very happy in Belgium, we have one party which represents your ideas: Vlaams Blok. In the white house they are known as neonazi’s in tuxedo’s. Maybe you should add to your signature … when going to Belgium … THINK with Belgians. Or at least try to.
Flood, as far as I’m concerned, the debate on pro/contra capital punishment is still open. I can understand 100% why victims would like their murderer/raper being hanged, but there’s on thing you forget here. Justice is not out to satisfy the needs of one person (the victim is selfish, how weird this may sound) but society as a whole. Capital punishment will not make your country a safer place. Countries who respect human rights for instance have a healthy economy, and this is no coincidence (Adam Smith). So you don’t have to be a tree hugger to support (basic) human rights, only some rational thinking. And this discussion is not even about death penalty. As much as I oppose it, human rights and death penalty are still different issues. The problem here is not the women being executed, but the way it was done is just munstruous.
Ben
GeforceHe’ll have plenty of time to sleep afterwarts (6x life sentence I hope)! And make sure he doesn’t hang himself!
GeforceHe’ll have plenty of time to sleep afterwarts (6x life sentence I hope)! And make sure he doesn’t hang himself!
GeforceOriginally posted by frankvw
Trial will be held in french, although I think in this case, dutch speaking ppl will have a translator.And, yes, laws are federal (at least in this case), so, same laws do apply.
Laws are certainly not always federal, but in this case they are.
It’s a court of assises, with a jury (don’t know the English term), a remainder from the code napoleon.
But trafic rules are different in wallonia, flanders and brussels!!! Transportation, economy, social affairs, agriculture, trade … are not federal. Though Belgium is not a confederation (yet), apart from defence and foreign affairs there’s really not much decided anymore on a federal level, most is local or EU.
Small detail, the Belgian constitution doesn’t say that Belgium has 3 official languages, it says there’s one official language in each community, which means that, if a Flemish gets caught in Wallonia, and he has to go to trial, he better learns some French (or asks for a translator) because French is the only official language! (Brussels being the exception were both French or Dutch or bilingual trials can be requested). 😎
And as the trial takes place in Luxembourg, Wallonia, the trial will be in French, translators are optional.
GeforceOriginally posted by frankvw
Trial will be held in french, although I think in this case, dutch speaking ppl will have a translator.And, yes, laws are federal (at least in this case), so, same laws do apply.
Laws are certainly not always federal, but in this case they are.
It’s a court of assises, with a jury (don’t know the English term), a remainder from the code napoleon.
But trafic rules are different in wallonia, flanders and brussels!!! Transportation, economy, social affairs, agriculture, trade … are not federal. Though Belgium is not a confederation (yet), apart from defence and foreign affairs there’s really not much decided anymore on a federal level, most is local or EU.
Small detail, the Belgian constitution doesn’t say that Belgium has 3 official languages, it says there’s one official language in each community, which means that, if a Flemish gets caught in Wallonia, and he has to go to trial, he better learns some French (or asks for a translator) because French is the only official language! (Brussels being the exception were both French or Dutch or bilingual trials can be requested). 😎
And as the trial takes place in Luxembourg, Wallonia, the trial will be in French, translators are optional.
GeforceShows again capital punishment is NOT the solution, no matter what the circumstances were. Human rights are not only there to protect individuals, but also society as a whole.
GeforceShows again capital punishment is NOT the solution, no matter what the circumstances were. Human rights are not only there to protect individuals, but also society as a whole.
GeforceOriginally posted by Jeanske_SN
What makes me mad is that all this trial and all that has to do about it costs sooooooooooooooooo much money!You speak very good English for a French.
Jeanske, I assume you’re Belgian (Dutch, French?) as well. Don’t underestimate the importancy of this trial. In fact, bringing this up is not a bad image at all for our country, this can happen anywhere in the world. The hysteria after the 1996-events: ministers losing their jobs, the debate on re-introducing the death penalty. If this trial succeeds, I hope for once and for all things can go back normal in Belgium after 8 years of troubles.
Frank, I don’t think there are any hidden answers. AFAIK Dutroux was acting alone (or with 2 companions). He’s a psycho, but the story that members of the gov’t, parl’t and royal family were involved is just another hoax, just like witness X-1.
GeforceOriginally posted by Jeanske_SN
What makes me mad is that all this trial and all that has to do about it costs sooooooooooooooooo much money!You speak very good English for a French.
Jeanske, I assume you’re Belgian (Dutch, French?) as well. Don’t underestimate the importancy of this trial. In fact, bringing this up is not a bad image at all for our country, this can happen anywhere in the world. The hysteria after the 1996-events: ministers losing their jobs, the debate on re-introducing the death penalty. If this trial succeeds, I hope for once and for all things can go back normal in Belgium after 8 years of troubles.
Frank, I don’t think there are any hidden answers. AFAIK Dutroux was acting alone (or with 2 companions). He’s a psycho, but the story that members of the gov’t, parl’t and royal family were involved is just another hoax, just like witness X-1.
GeforceWooow, thank you for this usefull information Distiller. Are you an expert in colonial history?! Do you know any titles of books which cover this subject (in English, French?).
GeforceWooow, thank you for this usefull information Distiller. Are you an expert in colonial history?! Do you know any titles of books which cover this subject (in English, French?).
GeforceIs/was the Royal African Corps an organisation dependent on the MoD? Is it something like the French foreign-legion?
The missions in the first part in the 19th century had little to do with colonising (much later), but what was the role of the British (and other) military in such missions. I know the Royal Navy tried to scare off Slave-traders and such, but why did they go inland, into the heart of Africa?
I just completed reading his book (thank you Berlin :), Den Hague was too much asked), but I can’t seem to find any information besides the fact that he served in the Royal African Corps.
GeforceIs/was the Royal African Corps an organisation dependent on the MoD? Is it something like the French foreign-legion?
The missions in the first part in the 19th century had little to do with colonising (much later), but what was the role of the British (and other) military in such missions. I know the Royal Navy tried to scare off Slave-traders and such, but why did they go inland, into the heart of Africa?
I just completed reading his book (thank you Berlin :), Den Hague was too much asked), but I can’t seem to find any information besides the fact that he served in the Royal African Corps.
GeforceActually do you have some info on Atlantis. It’s still a bit vague 🙁
GeforceActually do you have some info on Atlantis. It’s still a bit vague 🙁
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