Donald Kagan, well he`s probably the worst of them all. The problem with these Yale-professors is that they actually believe what they are saying. We are not obliged to read those books ofcourse, and I think I can better use my time to read Machiavelli, Hobbes or Kant instead.

Huntington was still OK, but even his views on future conflicts are very simplistic. Problem is that most people take the `Clash of civilizations` seriously, though it`s just a book based on opinions.

These authors, especially Kagan, want to look smart by adding one-liners and referring to great European philosophers like Kant, Heidegger and Bacon. Though I don`t believe one of them has ever read some of books on the subject. These men are unworthy the name of historian or philosopher.

Keltic, I wish you were right. Unfortunattely, this website is deadly serious. Have you been looking at the names of the ones who signed it? Not only politicians, but lots of historians from whom we have to read books. Just to name a few ; Francis Fukuyama (End of History) and Donald Kagan (The Origin of War). I read both books, and I think they are the biggest piece of trash ever written.

I think the PNAC is a bit like Cardinal Richelieu was for France in the 17th century. If these plans would become reality, than we will all live in a Hobbesian world by 2030. (Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan)

Yes, but I still believe one should not neglect its religious past. I`m still convinced that, despites the Crusades, the Roman Catholic Church ie has brought more good to the west than bad. So for all of you guys who think I`m anti-religious, I`m not.

Never said that my friend from across the ocean. I`m just following the discussions between you and Mongu + Kevin.

Seems like the biggest gap in this forum is between the British and the Americans. Us continentals don`t have much to add here 😀

I agree with Arthur, Iraq should respect the Geneva convention. geneva has nothing to do with the United Nations or with a resolution from the security council. Even in an unjust war Geneva should be ratified.

Keltic; they started the job; now the least they have to do is finish it. They knew the risks. I feel sorry for the soldiers themselves; but for the prestige of the us/uk : I couldn’t care less.

I think British support for the war will drop once it’s clear many soldiers will return …. in caufins. Ohh Tony; what have you done: