If your knees bent the other way what shape would aircraft seats be?
U-shaped probably:D
If your knees bent the other way what shape would aircraft seats be?
U-shaped probably:D
I wish it well – I’m quite sure it will be possible to get something really great together. I remember once – again many years ago – the Red Arrows performed at the Racecourse. Anything is possible.
I’ve dug this out for you – I met somebody earlier this year who had part of a programme for the 1909 meeting. This is the list of participants. There ought to be a more complete copy will be in local archives.
Allan
Many thanks for that one,I am chuffed to see there is still some more surviving documents.would the owner be able to get/allow a copy for Aeroventure?
looking at the list of participants I don’t recall seeing a large green ogre with a scottish accent in any photo’s of the event:D
which part of ‘I’m not knocking things’ didn’t you understand, all of it I’m guessing.
I am truly pleased that we still have got an industry left, and I do believe we have the finest people working on the best componants in the world, but I still do not believe the claim that you have put forward here.As somebody who hasn’t missed a Farnborough, I am well aware of the globalization of the aircraft industy, in fact it was probably one of the first in this respect. I do appreciate that most industries (including our once great motor industry) cannot survive without world partnerships.
But when I walk down that Farnborough isle all the corporate tents blend into one, I put on my black and white tinted glasses, and immagine what it was like in the days when we built and sold Viscounts and Canberras to America and Europe, Hunters all over the world, VC-10s to Africa, Sea Furys to Europe and the Middle East, Tridents to China, and even more recently the 1-11 and 146 to America. I do appreciate that some of these sales were NATO or Commonwealth led.
These aircraft were designed, built and flown by the British aircraft industry, a fact reflected in the SBAC shows, in that participents had to be British built aircraft and engines only, until 1968 when European aircraft with British componants were admitted. By the Late ’70s it was open to worldwide participation, i.e we wern’t producing enough to keep our own showcase going.
agreed
Folks, anyone know where I can get a high res photo on the web of ‘Friday the 13th?’ I want one that concentrates on the nose where it says ‘just as ye sow…so shall ye reap’
Many thanks
It’s a matter of revenge……:dev2:
I don’t have a photo but I believe the original aircraft nose art is preserved
(RAF museum has it, I think).
Why can’t the CAA be as open minded as the South Africans for example?
I have a pet theory that the CAA have a man in a van at Bruntingthorpe with a few Stingers in case somebody gets carried away on a hi speed taxi run.
Will the CAA ever lose the monica Campaign Against Aviation?……THATS GOTTA BE CLOSE TO THE ULTIMATE QUESTION.:D 😀 😀
Why can’t the CAA be as open minded as the South Africans for example?
I have a pet theory that the CAA have a man in a van at Bruntingthorpe with a few Stingers in case somebody gets carried away on a hi speed taxi run.
Will the CAA ever lose the monica Campaign Against Aviation?……THATS GOTTA BE CLOSE TO THE ULTIMATE QUESTION.:D 😀 😀
Why don’t they drain the English Channel so that we can recover all of the aircraft wrecks. It will bring us closer to Europe too. :dev2:
Best wishes
Steve P
Recover the wrecks-yes
Closer to europe-Noooooooooooooooooooo…………………………:D
Why don’t they drain the English Channel so that we can recover all of the aircraft wrecks. It will bring us closer to Europe too. :dev2:
Best wishes
Steve P
Recover the wrecks-yes
Closer to europe-Noooooooooooooooooooo…………………………:D
Surely not:confused: You’ve got a long approach from the North East over open ground to the racecourse and out over the fishing ponds and shopping on the former Doncaster Airport and nature reserve on the other side of the road. Granted a Vulcan might raise some eyebrows but a small airshow to mark the event would be highly significant.
And when talking about the history of flying at Doncaster, remind your PR people not to skip straight from RAF Doncaster to Aeroventure – I learnt to fly there at the old Doncaster Aero Club. I used to push aircraft around, chase horses off the runway and repainted the crash truck with a large tin of red Dulux paint so I could be paid in flying hours. Happy Days. 🙂 I doubt you’ll get anybody who can remember 1909 but there will be plenty who can reminisce about the 1980s. Trouble was that even then they were in a protracted battle with the council who wanted the site for – well all the stuff that’s there now really. So now Finningley is called Doncaster (Well Robin Hood:rolleyes: ) but we know where the real Doncaster airport was.
BTW – I work in PR and we’re paid to be positive, but do keep pushing your team hard to make sure things actually happen as well. I’d hope you can get a small flying display but at least a nice mix of static aircraft/cockpits brought in by road – that exhibition hall will take a fair bit of filling.
Good luck with it and keep us up to date with the plans
I agree with what you say about the NE approach, but I don’t know what the current CAA & local flying restrictions/regulations are for the area.
YES I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A FLY-IN!It would be fantastic to see a line up starting with shuttleworth’s Bleriot & Boxkite,going through to modern.If is was acheived it would have to be limited to perhaps 10-40(my own figures)single and smaller twin engine aircraft.
I must stress the idea is very much in the early stages & needs your support(from individuals to preservation groups & museums)so I have the evidence to take to various organisations to help raise awareness & funding.
In the past at Finningley & through to the Waddington airshow South Yorkshire Aircraft Museum/Aeroventure has increased BAPC awareness by getting nearby museums to put on displays as a BAPC collective whilst retaining individual group indentity at the venues.
I would like to do something on a similar vein,but on a more national scale-call it a one off,temporary air museum,involving ALLBAPC member groups.I just need some ideas of how to go about getting there.
Sad to see yet another facet of a once great and innovative aircraft industry consigned to history.
Maybe, just maybe, when politicians are finally prevented from hidding behind the wall of secrecy they themselves created we will manage to re-constuct the time line from pre Sands days to establish were it all went wrong for the UK, who was responsible and who profited from it, ???.
It probably started to go wrong when we let everyone else into the technology from the beginings of the industrial revolution.
I have always said our greatest weakness in this country is not to learn from history & past mistakes- I feel it is time that we took a fresh look at our past achievements & brought the most useful ones up to date.
Yes factories come & go,many were built in the 1930’s & served their purpose very well,which if maintained properly would probably still be standing when half the recently built wharehouses etc,have long gone.
We may still have the second largest aerospace on the planet-but…..
Don’t knock folk who are sad to see its demise,you have got to have been there & done it! try to appreciate that from their point of veiw once a site has gone all you have are the memories.
I accept you cannot save every nut & bolt but I thought this is a forum about heritage & preservation .
name the time and place
ADD THAT ONE TO THE LIST TOO: !!!!!!!! :diablo: :diablo: 😀
The UK’s first Air Display (“Aviation Meeting”) held 15th – 23rd October at the racecourse, just across the road from what became RAF Doncaster and, latterly, Doncaster’s air museum AeroVenture.
I agree, this is a milestone that’s worthy of celebration but what sort of display are you thinking of, an exhibition of memorabilia, a static aircraft display or an airshow/fly-in?
Somthing on those lines,but the fly-in would be a no-go due to too many houses in the area(pity really-it would have been fantastic).
The racecourse has a large exhibition hall & lots of grass areas to play with+ their PR team are pretty positive about doing somthing.No doubt it will be down to funding in the end as to if & what is staged.
7167M – Meteor F.3 EE352.
There were about six Meteors out to grass at Halton at that time.
Mark
If only we could go back in time-I would love to have saved this one,I don’t have any records but was she ex-616 Sqn?