To add a little to what JJ wrote:
Originally posted by google
They blew up the hotel yes, with lots of women and children inside.
Good luck trying to back the above claim with evidence, Google. The Kind David Hotel was home to the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine and Transjordan. Less than a third of it was an hotel proper, and since that section was not targetted in the blast, few of the hotel residents were hurt. The vast majority of victima were British military personnel and their employees, and that carnage could have been avoided had they evacuated the hotel as they had been warned to do prior to the blast.
Still, the Kind David bombing was stupid, which brings us to the next point :
Originally posted by SOC
Which was neither a political nor a military target, yet nobody seems to look at them in the same light as the Palestinians. Why is that?
It was very much a military target, but you’re right, nobody looked at them like the Palestinians. In contrast to Arab attacks against Jews, widely hailed as heroic actions, the Jewish National Council denounced the bombing of the King David. At a meeting of the Jewish Agency Executive in Paris on August 5, 1946, it was decided to terminate the armed struggle against the British in Palestine, and all cooperation between the Haganah (the mainstream Jewish force at the time) and the Irgun (which carried out the bombing) ceased.
IDF/AF 116 “Flying Wing” squadron, perhaps not as famous and illustrious as some of its counterparts, but hard to beat as a cool avatar.

IDF/AF 116 “Flying Wing” squadron, perhaps not as famous and illustrious as some of its counterparts, but hard to beat as a cool avatar.

Originally posted by BME330
With mexican national marks…enjoy
Excuse me, I guess everyone (including me) failed to notice this, but WHERE IS THE HAWKEYE’S STARBOARD LANDING GEAR ?!?!?!
Speaking of the machine gun, the article has a second part at http://www.gavs.it/Speciali/S79%20insabbiato/S79K_MM_23881_2.htm , with a close-up :

Regarding the Lebanese aircraft again, if the planes were indeed last spotted outside Ryak, those that have not left Lebanon may yet exist. Much of the Lebanese air force was stored in Ryak for the duration of the civil war. I believe much in yet in storage, and I don’t think anyone’s quite sure what’s still there.
Re: Re: s h o w t i m e . . . . . . . . . Q U I Z T I M E ! ! ! ! !
Saudi military display team : Saudi Hawks
Syria got MiG-21F-13s from the USSR, East Germany and a third Warsaw Pact member, Hungary perhaps?
I think Taiwan got some of its F-104s from Jordan.
The photo was taken in the early 1960s, apparently in the Lybian Desert, where the aircraft had been since April 21 1941. It’s all here :
http://www.gavs.it/FotodelNonno/S79K_MM_23881.htm
though anything else would require someone who speaks Italian.
Originally posted by robbelc
Perhaps this is one of the Lebanese AF machines that operated into the early 60’s on transport duties? I do agree that the photo does look dated though.
Any more info available about these Lebanese birds?
Originally posted by Srbin
LMAO thats the dumbest excuse, “I forgot my Arm switch was on”
It isn’t that dumb, wasn’t this the same reason given when an RAF 92 Sqn F-4 (XV422) shot down a Jaguar back in 1983?
This lovely shot was posted on the historic aviation forum a few days ago:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/523358/M/
Originally posted by Srbin
I’ve just read on ACIG that as soon as Syria got it’s brand new mig-23s they sent one of them against a batch of F-4s(or more) and they claim that Mig-23 shot down 2 F-4s in BVR before being shot down by other F-4s, not sure if it’s completely true but Israel claims no losses to any of their F-4s to anything it seems.
That’s the incident I was refering to earlier. On April 19 1974, a Syrian pilot test flying a newly delivered MiG-23 supposedly encountered a quartet of IDF/AF F-4s and shot two down before being downed himself, apparently by his own air defences. Israel has a different version of events on that day: During attacks on Syrian SA-6 batteries north of the Hermon, one F-4 Phantom and one A-4 are shot down by the SAMs they were operating against, while their top cover downs two Syrian MiGs. Beside my obvious bias, the Israeli version has a little more credibility than the Syrian one because we know the names of two pilots killed and the F-4 navigator POWed during the incident. If there were indeed two F-4 involved, there would be a fourth airman.
There was an incident in April 1974, during the skirmishes that followed the Yom Kippur War, in which Israeli F-4s faced Syrian MiG-23s. The Syrians claim two F-4s were downed by a MiG, Israel claims only one was lost (and that possibly to a SAM, they’re not sure). Later on, during fighting in Lebanon in the early 1980s, IDF/AF F-4s would sometimes encouter Syrian MiG-23s. Russian and Syrian sources claims several F-4 kills, but these are considered highly unreliable. Tom Cooper of ACIG claims he can confirm one F-4 kill, but we’ll have to wait for his book on the subject to learn more. Israel claims no F-4 losses to MiG-23s at the time.
Re: Israeli Apache Longbow
Originally posted by alexz33
Israeli Apache Longbow
The photo depicts the first flight of the Saraf in Israeli configuration, with Israeli systems, sometime in early February. It’s a Boeing photo.
Congradualtions Frank! Airliners.net must indeed be going downhill, they’ve recently accepted a pair of mine too 😉
Here’s 229 about a decade later. Having also seen the aircraft a few weeks ago, I am sad to say it is in a terrible state. It’s no longer even on the museum’s display area, but rather neglected, its colours faded, fenced off at the derelicts section.
Regarding that F-15, with the LGBs on the CFTs : I guess it’s pretty safe to assume there’s an automated system that ensures that the bottom one is released before the one slighty above, right?