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  • in reply to: IDF Mirage IIICJ /Nesher pics? #2678741
    skythe
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    Paid a visit to the IDF/AF museum a few days ago. By now they’ve given 159 it’s correct serial, though it still bears 158’s kill markings.

    in reply to: Israel A/F profile art needed #2681436
    skythe
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    Here, try these, though it woud help if you were most specific. What are you looking for?

    http://wings48.com
    http://www.101squadron.com/
    http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_363.shtml (ACIG has other articles with artwork too)

    in reply to: Now this is Low… (Yes, another Spitfire thread!) #1602855
    skythe
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    Same time, same place.

    in reply to: Now this is Low… (Yes, another Spitfire thread!) #1602879
    skythe
    Participant

    Black 57, yesterday morning.

    in reply to: an aircraft for parades, not war? #2682665
    skythe
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    Thank you for thinking of me, Steve. I did see the Longbow purchase mentioned about a week ago, don’t remember where though, possibly in connection with the recent F-16I arrivals. Every time I see the deal mentioned the details are slightly different, I even don’t bother trying to remember them anymore. 😉

    in reply to: Israeli Air Force piccies #2684443
    skythe
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    First photos from the F-16I arrival ceremony at Ramon AFB, 19/02/04 :

    http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?182434

    http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/images/daily/D190204/245sufa1902ap.3.jpg

    in reply to: IDF's Star Wars program? #2684469
    skythe
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    “Stealth Army”? “Star Wars”? 😮
    You know, once in a while, truely informative articles do appear in the international press about IDF/AF techniological undertakings, the sort of things our air force and signal corps are up to (an example). The above isn’t one of them.

    in reply to: Return of the Syrian Air Force Challenge #2684519
    skythe
    Participant

    Here, this also appeared there. I do believe these were originally scanned for us by JJ.

    in reply to: Return of the Syrian Air Force Challenge #2684532
    skythe
    Participant

    Originally posted by kfadrat
    COPYRIGHT TOM COOPER AND ACIG.org

    The picture is scanned out of an issue the IDF/AF magazine which published an article about the Syrian Air Force a few years ago. The original is probably from Syrian TV. My picture of the pilots climbing into their L-39s, also posted on this thread, comes from the same article. See what appears like a “WWW” watermark? It appeared on the other side of the page. The article appeared just as the IDF/AF’s official website was coming online and the magazine was running ads for the site.

    in reply to: Israeli Air Force piccies #2685516
    skythe
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    Originally posted by Arthur
    Also, if you know the story behind the Albatross, i’d be happy. I’ve heard both stories that it was an actual candidate to replace the Tzukit, or that this L-39 was used for the Elbit/Bedek systems upgrade for later Albatross variants (like those for Thailand).

    A bit of both actually. In the early 1990s Elbit and Aero got together to offer an L-39 with an Israeli avionics package. During this cooperation, Elbit invited a team from the IDF/AF to evaluate the aircraft, which is why at least one received the roundel. Four people were sent to evaluate the aircraft, including the IDF/AF’s chief test pilot and the commander of the IDF/AF’s flight school. After 20 or so flights the Albatros was rejected, either because it did not meet Israeli requirements, or simply because the IDF/AF didn’t want to allocate the necessary funds. Perhaps both, don’t know.
    Anyway, the June 91 issue if the IDF/AF Magazine features a picture of an L-39 pair in flight, including star bearing 208. Apparently it also appeared on the cover of another issue of the magazine, but I’ve yet to see that one myself. The aircraft was part of some Algerian batch.

    in reply to: Israeli Air Force piccies #2686134
    skythe
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    The French squadrons at Ramat david received two designations, 199 but also 201.

    As for aircraft never in service with the IDF/AF, my personal favorite indeed never wore the Star of David, but it did wear a “Negev” squadron badge. This, btw, is the squadron which is due to receive the first pair of F-16Is tommorow. Everyone’s very excited about that, according to the papers the IDF/AF is having trouble dealing with the amount of people who want to be at the ceremony.

    (more about the Albatros later)

    in reply to: Israeli Air Force piccies #2686174
    skythe
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    Originally posted by flex297
    F-15A #689

    wonder what happened here

    689, “Efroni”, suffered an engine malfunction upon take off on a training sortie on August 4 1998. The pilot immediately returned to base but landed too fast, ripping an arresting cable and crashing through the arresting net. Although the pilot was unharmed, the aircraft suffered extensive damage and underwent 2.5 years of repairs before returning to service.

    Originally posted by Arthur
    Nope, it’s not a Mystère of any kind. It’s a Canadair Sabre Mk.6 or CL-13B. It’s a bit comparable to the F-86F, only faster and with a higher ceiling. Israel ordered 24 in 1955, but Canada blocked them because of the Suez crisis. In stead, the IDF/AF ordered Mystère IVs in France.

    The Canadians were very reluctant to sell well before the Suez Crisis. By October 1956 and the Suez Crisis, before the deal was finally cancelled, the IDF/AF was already operating Mysteres.

    in reply to: Israeli Hetz rocket secrets in Egyptian hands #2686183
    skythe
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    You should really read this at the source, the article above is far too shallow, it’s got the technicalities quite wrong.

    The Arrow Scandal

    For months the most expensive and most important Israeli defense project of the last decade, the Arrow missile’s operating system, was exposed to Egyptian eyes. IBM computer engineers in Cairo helped their Israeli colleagues detect and correct bugs in one of the Israeli defense establishment’s most sensitive software programs. The best-case scenario is that all of the information has already been exposed to Egyptian intelligence. The worst case is that it was also exposed to hostile elements
    Ben Kaspit

    Khaled Sharif has an important role in protecting Israel from the threat of ballistic missiles. Sharif is a computer technician employed by the IBM Cairo office. In the past months Sharif and other Egyptian workers have been corresponding with their colleagues at the Israeli IBM office. Their task is to detect and correct bugs in the MOTIF computer program, on which the computerized system of the Arrow missile is programmed.

    No, that is no mistake. Egyptian computer engineers in Cairo work with Israeli computer engineers in Tel Aviv on the most expensive and most important defense project Israel has developed in the last decade – the “Wall” project, that operates the Arrow missile batteries. If it weren’t sad it could be funny.

    The Arrow is the world’s only operative ABM (Anti Ballistic Missile). It is a joint US-Israeli project, with Israel developing the heart of the system, the ultra-sensitive “Green Pine” radar system, which gives the missile the capability to track and intercept incoming ballistic missiles. It is the free world’s only current viable defense against such threats.

    Imagine U.S. scientists in the 1940s working on the first nuclear bomb and corresponding for that purpose with their colleagues in Moscow. The affair was discovered through the intervention of Maariv, that transferred the information to the defense establishment. Since then, for the past weeks, special teams of experts have been closely reviewing all of the computerized systems, including the Arrow, to clean, detect and neutralize bugs or “Trojan horses” that may have been implanted in them by hostile elements. It should be stressed that no damages or hostile implantations of bugs into the system have been discovered to date. Even if they were discovered we would probably not be allowed to publish it. Nor do we know of any legal violations, except for the violation of common sense.

    A Trojan horse

    Israel and Egypt have peaceful relations. It is important to encourage trade between them, but a clear red line should be drawn when it comes to such sensitive security systems. Egyptian intelligence is known for its efficiency and creativity. It surely has the means to find out what is happening at computer companies located in Cairo. That is how intelligence organizations work all over the world. The working assumption has to be that everything that passed between Tel Aviv and Cairo has been revealed to the Egyptian intelligence, at the very least. The IDF’s sophisticated combat systems, including the Arrow, are completely computerized. The Air Force is computerized to the gills. Everything flashes on computers screens. In the old days, to shoot, you had to pull a trigger. Today, more and more, you press “send” on a computer to release a missile or a guided bomb or to operate a sophisticated radar system. When F-16s fly over Ein Saheb in Syria the Air Force commander sits in his Tel Aviv bureau and e-mails them a photo of the target area marked with a red arrow. The pilot adjusts the photo to the view he sees, collates the arrows and presses “send”. One little bug implanted into the system would destroy the process. When it comes to the Arrow the implications are more serious: a computer engineer can introduce a Trojan horse into the operating system planned to be activated during real time use of the system and cause its collapse. It is simple, effective and fatal. According to that scenario, at the moment of truth, when ballistic missiles are on their way to Israel the “wall” system will be activated and then collapse. As a result the actual Arrow missiles will be diverted from their course, or blow up in the air, or just dally. It sounds like a completely fantastical scenario, but that scenario has been placed on more then a few desks in Israel in the last weeks.

    Maariv has documents that attest to the tight, nearly daily contact between Israeli IBM engineers and the company’s Egyptian office to find bugs in the Arrow operating system. Moreover: during our examination we learned that the next generation of the MOTIF software is being developed in Cairo. From there it was supposed to be sent here, to undergo some further adjustments and replace the current missile system that is supposed to defend Israeli skies from surprise missile attacks.

    A work stop in Egypt

    The story is simple. Computer software is Anglophonic. IBM’s central Middle East office is in Cairo, and it is the office in charge of regionalizing into Arabic and Hebrew. That is all fine and well until it comes to such sensitive programs. For now, the blunder has been fixed, the route has been blocked and there is no more contact between Tel Aviv and Cairo. Better late than never. Nobody is blaming Egypt of anything. They say there are excellent computer engineers in Cairo who managed to solve many of the project’s flaws. IBM says nothing physical was transferred between the offices, it was only electronic correspondences. Other sources inside the system cite codes, bugs and valuable information that flowed between those two points for a long time. Not to speak of the next generation system that was developed there. The defense establishment and the Air Force decline to comment on the affair. A senior Air Force officer approved its details and says everything is under control and examination now, under the supervision of a special team created for the purpose.

    IBM spokesman Yossi Shoval issued the following statement: “IBM has a large number of development laboratories in the world (including in Israel) that serve its clients throughout the world, develop products and handle problems and customer support. In a comprehensive examination we conducted we found there was no exposure of the specific software that was employed in the project in question and in the other IBM software packages operating in the defense establishment. We especially wish to emphasize that no IBM software package provided to the defense establishment was exposed to the infiltration of unwanted and unplanned elements. We want to emphasize that our activities are fully coordinated with the defense establishment”.

    Off the record, IBM officials confirmed the story. They say everyone in the defense establishment who needed to know the Egyptian office was handling bugs knew. They stressed no damage had been detected. Meanwhile, the defense system closed the strange breach.

    in reply to: Its the Falklands again #2688152
    skythe
    Participant

    I’ve got a question regarding the Falklands, maybe someone would be kind enough to enlighten me. When the Argentinians invaded the islands back in 1982, why did Britain have to go to war all by itself? Couldn’t it have invoked article whatever of the North Atlantic treaty, isn’t an attack on one member of NATO the same as the attack on all? Or are there exceptions which prevented Britain from getting aid from the other treaty members?

    in reply to: IDF Mirage IIICJ /Nesher pics? #2688231
    skythe
    Participant

    Thanks for the info King Jester, very interesting. However, the aircraft is almost certainly 159, as the panel inside the landing gear bay indicates. That’s a 459, another serial which the same aircraft carried for a while.

    From what I’ve managed to gather, the real 158 is apparently on display as a war memorial in a Vila Carlos Paz (?) park.

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