I love that it’s been taken back to Spit I form. Great to see the knock out panal in the slab side canopy too.
Just one question out of curiousity not complaint. Did the late Mk Is have the rounded oil cooler intake like the V or did they still have the half circle?
Flew in the Collings Foundation B24J with the younger brother of a B24 Co-pilot who had been killed in 1945. I’d researched the crew and found out what had happened to his brother for him as well as tracking down the 3 surviving crew. To see him sitting in the co-pilot’s seat in flight where his brother had gone to war so many years ago was incredibly moving. Add to that that sitting next to me on the flight deck was a B24 flight engineer on his first trip since the war and it will always be a very special memory.
Here’s mine.
Was Spitfire XII EN234 EB-Q modified with a camera behind the cockpit into an FRXII in the Spring of 1943 for low level recces as being flown by 41 Squadron at the time from Hawkinge?
F/L Douglas Hone was assigned to that kite and it was his recollection of using it for low level photography that has left me wondering. Does a photo of it exist out there somewhere?
Yeah I know, not very earth shattering, but I’d like to know.:D
Here’s mine.
Was Spitfire XII EN234 EB-Q modified with a camera behind the cockpit into an FRXII in the Spring of 1943 for low level recces as being flown by 41 Squadron at the time from Hawkinge?
F/L Douglas Hone was assigned to that kite and it was his recollection of using it for low level photography that has left me wondering. Does a photo of it exist out there somewhere?
Yeah I know, not very earth shattering, but I’d like to know.:D
The photo was taken by Charles Brown from an Oxford, midmorning on October 17, 1943 between Worthy Down and Keevil near Trowbridge.
This from a letter I have from Clive Gosling who is the pilot of MB882 in that picture. Obviously it was taken prior to going to 41 Squadron. The well known in flight photos of DP845 were taken the previous day with F/L Gosling flying DP845 on that sortie as well.
I tried blowing up a good copy of another photo from the same flight but I can’t make out what the handwriting is.
As for 41 history, go here:
http://brew.clients.ch/Body41.htm
Lots of info from lots of folks. Much of my Spit XII stuff is there. MB882 was a Flight Commander’s aircraft, first flown by F/L Don Smith RAAF and then F/L Terry Spencer when Smith went on to command 453 squadron. It had one of the last two Spit XII kills of the war when F/L Spencer shot down LW “Experten” Bully Lang and his 190 on September 3, 1944. MB882 took hits to the tail during that fight. Spencer downed a number of V-1s flying MB882 and it’s the bird he was flying when he ‘tipped’ a V-1, something difficult to do in particular with a clipped wing Spit.
Peter Cowell was flying MB882 at low alt over the Channel when he ‘bounced’ off the water, shattering evenly all 4 blades about halfway down on each. He barely limped back at full throttle. This was in June 44.
Get me going on XIIs and I can talk or type for days 🙂
Dan
OK so I win the lottery and decide this is the warbird I’m going to save. In all seriousness, would it be worth it?
It’s a combat vet MTO Beaufighter, so it’s historically significant. By the time I’m done ‘restoring’ it, what would be left of the bird we see in the photos, anything? Or would it be the provenence and patterns that would remain?
And yes I like Beaufighters 🙂
Neil996
I do ALL of it in Photoshop, though as you can see from mine, not a “blackline” showing. For color wash in line work, it probably would be best to do the line art in Illustrator, and color it up in Photoshop. Lots of layers is best. Copy a layer before you do anything drastic. That is the wonderful thing about layers as opposed to hand painting….whoops….wash it off….start over !!This ’17 I have been working on is not just nose art, it is full length, 36″ and high resolution. BIG file. Still tracking down rivit patterns for the aft section, tail and wing bottoms. Just takes time!
I start in Illustrator then take it to photoshop. Lets me have templates of different birds and adjust them before going to Photoshop. The 109E started there and finished in photoshop with lots of layers. The Mustang hasn’t made it to photoshop yet as I keep adding detail as I find it.
Haven’t had much energy for it the last couple years but I really got into doing profiles for a bit, self taught in Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop. Nothing compared to the other stuff here, but fun
Model building without the glue. I need to finish some Spit stuff for someone soon too.
What I thought was my best 109E
The P51C Mustang I keep working on to get as much detail as I can. Getting there but a ways to go
Good to hear & she looks very nice indeed. 🙂
Congrats to all who have worked on her.
Interesting to note she hasn’t been restored with a ‘b’ wing though!
Seems it’s a ‘c’ wing without the spare chimney pot!
Cheers
Paul
I know it’s not my money and not my Spitfire, but why go to all that expense and not get the look of the cannons right?
I love the early roundel/later gray green combo. That’s a nice change of pace.
Actually, aerodynamically speaking, a slightly rough (matt paint) surface would be better. It would make the airframe more slippery.
Which had something to do with why the NMF Mustang still had silver painted wings.
Seems to me there was a confidence about it too. Nose colors and rudder colors started showing up and got more prominant the further into 44 they got. It was almost a “We’re coming, what are you going to do about it” attitude.
That’s speaking for Fighter pilots btw. Not sure a Bomber crew felt the same way.
I do remember well hearing that rumor of crated Spits in Australian caves when I was in college and did a semester in England. Some old guy in a pub was talking about it. That was 1980.
Now if I could just find a crated Spit XII in my back yard, I’d have it made!
First time I was in England, back in 1980 I remember hearing an old guy in a pub talking about Spitfire VIIIs in crates in a tunnel in Australia.
That’s the only one I’ve ever heard, beyond what I see here and on WIX
Checked the logbook of the Spit pilot that I have. He started on Spits in December 41 and finished up his combat flying in August 44.
His totals were 569.15 hours in Spits.
I’d assume that might be about normal for the average Spit pilot during the war.
He flew Is, IIs, Vs, IXs, XIIs and XIVs
Dan
I don’t know how many times my son and I sat through that one at the theater. He was really little. I was covering his eyes for some parts but he was an aviation junkie from a young age and jets on the big screen was fun to see.
He loved “Top Gug” as he pronounced it.
Twas a long time ago
Dan
It’s a wonderful film, well worth seeing.
As for the aircraft. When the Andrews character and two others get back from overseas, they hitch a ride in a B17E going their way. Lots of good film of that bird too.