Why don’t you make it one for each decade of the 20th century instead. That would make it tough 🙂
1900-1910-Wright Flyer
1910-1920-Sopwith Camel
1920-1930-Spirit of St. Louis
1930-1940-DC-3
1940-1950-Me109
1950-1960-Boeing 707
1960-1970-SR-71 Blackbird
1970-1980-F15 Eagle
1980-1990-Hawker Harrier
1990-2000-F117 Stealth
Done fast and clearly open to debate 🙂
Dan
Oh isn’t she pretty. Finally the correct prop, windscreen, exhausts, not extra bracing on the wing, 8 mgs.
Step back in time that way. Can’t wait to see her finished and on the fly again
A particular favourite of Jeffrey Quill was the prototype DP845, basically a MK V fitted with the short single stage Griffon engine.
The most grunt in the lightest airframe under 10,000′ – the Mk XII.
Mark
Can I have one please? 🙂
Dan
Hey I can dream can’t I?
Any idea why they restored it with the 4 cannon barrels instead of the two 20mm and two .5s look?
Seems strange. I don’t recall ever seeing a Spit IX/XVI with that set up
One of my most prized photos, which I share every chance I get 🙂
Just a kid back in 85 with the Spit XII drivers of 41 Squadron at Coltishall. Getting included in the group photo was such a great moment for me as these guys were/are my heros.
No “Aces” by kill count, but every last one of them an Ace in my book.
Sadly many of them are gone now 🙁
Dan
We are an adventurous bunch.Pic looks great Mark12.Could have been taken with a camera phone only yesterday.JDK looks like I might see you around our museum then soon…:diablo:
Dan that Mustang looks real nice..Any plans on weathering it or is it a fictionous factory finish?
Mark I thought you would be knee deep in Lincoln bits by now:p
Cees what a good wife you are…:eek:
Peter what a great thread!!;)
I,m now off to bed..to dream of Merlins….:rolleyes:
I’ll weather the Mustang once I quit finding details i want to add to it. Somehow I keep finding things to change or add however. It’s a bit like model building without the glue on the canopy 🙂
Mark12, that’s a great photo. let’s see some more:)
Dan
Best I can do. I’ve been trying to get my fictional 4th FG P51B profile just the way I want it. And I keep finding detail to add 🙂
OK so it isn’t real, but it’s as close as I can get :rolleyes:
Alfred Price talks about post-war Spitfire PR19s coming over England at 49,000 feet during Operation Dagger in 1948. First generation jets couldn’t get up to them apparently.
Luck be a “Lady” tonight? 🙂
Looking at it, could it be a 21?
Doesn’t appear to be a second cannon bulge on the wing.
I did some research back in the early 90s for a 301st BG tail gunner who’d been shot down February 13, 1945. He sent me a copy of his story that he’d written for his family back in 1946-47 about his wartime experience. He ‘rode it in’ from 27,000 feet in the tail the day he went down. It affected him the rest of his life. Quoting Gael Elmer, 301st BG
“We were only a few minutes away from the target when another ship in our formation told us that there was a gas leak in our wing. I looked and could see a fine spray leaving the trailing edge of the wing out near the Tokyo tanks. But, as I watched, i was sure it was smoke and by looking back out of the slip stream I could see that it was smoke. A tremor went through me as I knew we were on fire even though I didn’t know how bad it was. Then I heard Larry (co-pilot) who was flying at the time, complain that the controls were sluggish and the left wing was heavy. The termor I felt before suddenly deepened as I felt the ship tremble as the heavy wing tried to go down. I glanced down at the ground and remembered that it was mostly white with snow and a long way down. I grabbed my chute and snapped it on to my harness along with my GI shoes.
As the sthil still seemed to be laboring along, I glanced out toward the burning wing. There were no flames, but the smoke was thicker now and the metal skin began to shrivel up on the wing ribs. I seemed to feel that it couldn’t last ong and moved as near to my escape hatch as I could and still keep my wires connected. Then it all became more of a reality as I heard Barnes say over the interphone, “get your chutes on. We’ll sweat her out a little while longer.” But instead of getting better the wing seemed to get heavier and the controls more sluggish. With each tremor of the big ship, the feeling of fear bore down upon me. Soon I heard Barnes call for a heading to Russia. Edelson came back with “Take a heading of 90 degrees”. I can remember faintly the ship starting to turn and nothing more.
I’m going down, I’ve got to get out! Bail out, bail out, I’m going down! This is what we were trained for–this is the moment. Get out! Get ou! I can’t. I’m trapped. I’m going down with it. I’m going to die. Now I’ll know what it’s like. I’ve often wondered. Dear God I’m coming. Good bye Doris.
Someone was firing shots. I could hear sharp reports, and there was an old lady standing there in plain view. She should get down. What strange looking people. I wonder what they are staring at me for. I wonder where I am. Who could they be? Why am I here?
Suddenly my senses returned and as though someone had lifted a curtain on my past life, I could remember everything. We had been flying and were on fire. We had decided to head for Russia and I had been trapped in the plane. I could remember going down. Most likely only seconds, but I could remember being unable to get out of the ship when I tried. My left hand had been caught beneath the cat walk. The ammunition box on my left had broken loose from the ship. Half was in front and half in back of me, making it impossible for me to move any part of my body except my right arm. I had struggled to get out until blackness and weakness came over me and as we seeminly plummeted downward, I knew i would surely die.
But here I was alive. I couldn’t be dead because I could see all these people and I was there–it was me.
With that knowledge of being alive, I slipped back into slumber.”
His best friend on the crew had ridden it down too in the nose, but died shortly afterwards as Elmer watched unable to do anything to help. Gael Elmer finished the war as a POW.
Absolute pride of my collection is the logbook of an RCAF Spitfire pilot. He flew first with 416, then flew Hurricanes off CAM ships for a bit before moving on to Spit XIIs with 41 and then becoming a Flight Commander in 91 Squadron also on XIIs. He then flew Spit XIVs and IXs with 91 before returning to Canada in August 44. He stayed in the RCAF flying Sabres until about 1960
I took it to the 1985 Coltishall reunion of 41 Squadron and got it autographed by all the Spit pilots in attendence. I wouldn’t part with it for anything.
Dan
Ah! That will be the F.Mk VE 🙂
More likely in Malta, I suspect a Mk VC originally fitted with two 20mm cannons per wing and then had the inner cannons removed and perhaps two outer .303 Brownings fitted. With all the supply and infrastructure difficulties during the siege I am sure it was a case of ‘make do and mend’.
Mark
Yes it is the dreaded Spitfire FVeTrop with the single mg and single 20mm in each wing with the 20mm in the outboard cannon bay 🙂

This one is close. Post war 2 seat conversion.

Dan,
There are about three threads on this general topic, running back a few weeks, on this forum.
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewforum.php?f=32&sid=98ff57a42c0191dd82ffd65dcb07c998
Worth looking what it says about mk IX wings in general. It is heavy going.
In my view the official and AP referred ‘Universal’ wing is Mk VC only.
The unique Mk IX wing, with 361 part number, is similar to and based on the Mk VC wing, equally the bowser wing on the PR Spitfires is also based on the Mk V wing….just more engineering and more bits changed.
Mark
I’ve been watching those as it was a similar discussion to the one we had on old 434 a couple years back.
So maybe the better way to ask the question is when did E wing armament arrive at the squadrons? As mentioned the photo evidence seems to point to July 44 as the first photos, outside of the one of MK732 show partial D-Day stripes. The Logbook I have also shows mention of the XIVe arriving at 91 squadron July 14, 1944.
So was ML407 which according to the book arrived at 485 Squadron April 29, 1944 e wing armament equipped? I guess in the end I’m really looking to know when that type of armament reached the squadrons operationally. All the photos I can find of full invasion striped Spit IXs show the 2 20mm and 4 303 mg armament with the blanked off outer cannon bay.
None of the photos of ML407 in the book give a definative look at the wing armament.
Dan