Wonderful stuff! For us poor suffering folks on the wrong side of the pond for Legends, that helped ease the pain.
Of course the pain of wanting my own Spit got worse, but that’s a good kind of pain π
Dan
Just to add to the party.
A factory fresh B17G, and a combat shot of a badly damaged 301st BG B17G taken in February 1945 after it was hit by flak in the waist area peeling back the fuselage. It held together and they made it back
Dan
41 Squadron Reunion RAF Coltishall, July 1985.
Being able to meet all those former Spit pilots and get in the B of B Spit II in 41 Squadron markings, as well as being a part of all the reunion events with the former 41 Squadron members is a time I’ll never forget.
A very close second was helping the brother of a MIA B24 co-pilot get a marker placed and have a memorial service at the Fort Snelling National Cemetary here in the Twin Cities in the mid 90s. Tracking the story and helping him find closure with the loss of his brother was a wonderful feeling. Being considered ‘part of the crew’ by the surviving crew members was also very meaningful to me.
Dan
The first time I was in England, back in 1980 I remember seeing a two seat Silver Vampire, apparently just sitting in someone’s yard, while a buddy and I were hitch hiking from London to Edinburough. It was in Scotland I think. I’d love to know if that bird is still around and what the story was behind it.
I know I’m not providing much to go on, but there can’t be that many Vampires in people’s yards π
Dan
And photos from John Stanaway’s book “Peter Three Eight” showing Laven with his family and Itsy Bitsy in San Antonio, Texas, from no doubt the same time frame and trip.
Gotta love how this stuff works. Minding my own business, looking at the photos and BAM! I know that one! π
BTW Mark, if you hadn’t posted the other thread saying you were adding to this one daily, I’d have missed it. Thanks for the heads up
Dan
Very interesting photo of future P38 Ace George Laven’s P38E “Itsy Bitsy”. He was flying with the 54th FS in the Aleutians at the time where he claimed 4 Japanese aircraft. He later claimed one more Japanese plane while flying with the 49th FG to make him an ace.
One of the stories about Laven involved that P38 being damaged and he was sent to a modification center in Alaska to get it fixed. But the center wasn’t operating so Laven pointed the nose of his 38 towards the only modification center he knew was working, near his hometown of San Antonio, Texas. The time frame fits this photo, which makes me wonder if this was one of Laven’s stops on the return trip from Texas, where his family resided as well π
This 38E is carrying drop tanks too, which was a rarity for the 38E
Added as scan of Itsy Bitsy at Adak Alaska with the 54th. The color shot comes from Jeff Ethell’s “P38 Lightning in World War II Color”
Thanks for posting these Mark.
Dan
who likes early versions of the 38 too π
More please π
Dan
The same article states that the aircraft is painted to represent Lance Wade’s aircraft of late 1943, yet it clearly wears a much later scheme (no sky rear fuselage band, black spinner, etc)!
Lance Wade wouldn’t have been flying an XVI. He was flying in the Med and was flying VIIIs so that doesn’t fit either.
Hmmmmmm.
Dan
@von Perthes: I know this picture in small size from the (German) magazine “Aircraft”, but hey!, this is far better! I can finally see lines of the camouflage scheme! I have thougt of completing the scheme by using a green/grey/sky? Lancaster-pattern if I donΒ΄t get any more pictures.
It is reported the aircraft crashed in flight (fluggeraet.de), another scource said, the arcraft was written off after an German air raid (luftwaffen-experten.co.uk, I believe), however, my first thougt was, they could have been running out of spare parts. I think the landing-accident-version to be correct, now.Question: Does “SoC” stand for “struck off carge”? That means the aircraft was deleted from the RAF inventory?
@Dan Johnson: Yes, indeed. Are the books of these series still availabe? (Hurricane?) My book is dated from 1993.
A short remark about the crews: A Norwegian website stated (?) the crews were from Norway, but had been issued British passports. Well, the names of the unlucky crew donΒ΄t sound that way. The Hasegawa-Mosquito features this markings, but did not report anything about the fate of the plane(s).Now I have to try to get that Aeroplane issue – in Germany π
Thanks for answering!
My suggestion on the books is to go to:
and do a search for a used copy. I’ve found just about any old book I’ve wanted via that site.
Gann’s book mentions a number of pilots.
He mentions BOAC Captain John Henry White who in January of 44 flew from Stockholm to Scotland, then back to Stockholm and again back to Scotland for a total of 9 hours, 36 minutes flying time with only 45 minutes on the ground, making three crossings through enemy skies, all at night and all by hand flying on instruments.
He also details a flight by F/O Gilbert Rae in a Mark VI who with his Radio Op named Payne, was flying a passenger in the bomb bay. They were jumped by FW 190s and he is able to outrun them and escape to Scotland. There is comment about the lack of exhaust shrouds gives him extra MPH that probably saved him.
Since they are Civillians Rae and Payne are awared MBEs instead of DFCs.
Hope that helps
Dan
Folks-
Someone help me with this or clarify the details….was talking at the Front Range airshow here in Colorado today with 5 old gaffers about their various experiences, and one was a regular Duxford attendee…he happened to mention something about Johnnie Johnson and how Johnnie had become an air attachee to Washington (post WWII) and from there had wrangled his way to an operational F-86 group flying combat in Korea and managed to get up on some missions there with the Americans…anyone know more about this or if it’s true? This same old guy said he had talked to Johnson’s crew chief during the war and the crew chief told him Johnson was a real pain to work for and could be a sonofabitch when he wanted to…had never heard that before and in fact when I met Johnson at DX in 2000 the guy could’nt have been nicer….
Mark
My understanding is that JEJ flew missions in A26 Invaders in Korea. They were B26s by that point of course as the Marauder had been retired. I’ve never seen anything that said he flew Sabres.
And as an aside, when I was first hunting Spit XII stuff I was lucky enough to get his address and he was very kind in taking the time to reply to my questions about his one flight with the Tangmere Spit XII wing as well as commenting on Ray Harries
Dan
And I assume this is the photo you found in Mossie at War?
Dan
There is a small chapter in the book “Earnest K. Gann’s Flying Circus” called -The Ball Bearing Airline, that talks about those Mossie flights. And as part of each chapter there is a color painting of the aircraft included.
This is the Mossie print. Sorry about the middle. It covers two pages.
Dan
Whilst rummaging deeply for the ‘Brooklyn Bum’ P-39 photos, I happened upon the attached.
I had been asked by the IDFAF to investigate the the first ever landing on a cleared strip at the back of Haifa at what is now the prime base of Ramat David in Israel.
The log book of this gentleman, a Hurricane pilot, was thought to hold a possible clue.
What price this little posed collection at a Christies sale I wonder? π
Mark
Plenty I’d imagine π
I loved pointing out to my kids, when they were smaller and watching “James & the Giant Peach” or “Willy Wonka”, that there was a Spitfire pilot behind it all. They of course having grown tired of Dad’s Spit obsession early on π
Dan
Walther Matthau the actor was in the same Bomb Group as Jimmy Stewart. Not sure of his role. He was a Sergeant.
Charles Bronson, the actor was a gunner on bombers I believe.
Dan