Might want to go here:
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/digitalcolourchartswm_1.htm
Get the RAF charts and use that to match the colors.
Here is the 453 Spit IX I did a while back as a profile
Do note that the Squadron codes on the left side are not reflected on the right. the FU is forward of the roundel.
Dan
I knew I’d seen one 65 Squadron Mustang III photo but I couldn’t for the life of me remember where. So after a long dig through all the Mustang books I found it in “P51 Mustang in Color” by Larry Davis. Not the one you are looking for, but it at least shows the markings well.
Dan
Roger Freeman’s Mustang at War has a couple of photos of 65 Squadron Mustang IV’s taking off, some silver, some camo. No Mustang IIIs however 🙁
Dan
It’s an oldy from 86, but it’s my all time favorite picture. I’m the goofy looking guy in front of all those 41 Squadron pilots and the B of B Spit II at RAF Coltishall July 1986.
Dan
Will do Snapper. Not trying to hijack your thread but I hope you don’t mind if I ask the same for ‘my’ crew
I’ve spent the better part of the last 10 years researching the crew of a B24 that was shot down over Vienna on February 14, 1945.
Captain Richard Fry and crew were a Lead crew for the 454th BG that day flying Deputy Lead at the front of the formation off the right wing of the lead ship. A flak burst went off in the cockpit of their B24 killing Richard Fry (top left) and Al Brody(2nd from the left) instantly. With no pilots and damaged beyond control, the plane fell out of formation with the rest of the crew stunned and then struggling to survive. Five men made it out to become POWs, one survived the crash only to die as a POW. Three others, besides the two pilots died in the crash. Waist Gunner Earle Kulhanek(Bottom right), the youngest of the crew was last seen with his chute on, radioing the pilots for permission to jump. He wouldn’t go without the ok he was never going to get. Radio man Don Bucholz(top right) was trapped in the radar well of the B24 and failed to get out. Radar Bombardier Albert Bender(Bottom left) managed to bail out but either had his chute fail or was killed on the ground. All five of these men are still MIA. Portraits of Richard Fry and Al Brody stare at me daily from frames above my computer. It’s my job to make sure they aren’t forgotten.
Dan
Sure wish someone could save that early model B25 from the ravages of the outdoors. Note the ventral turret too.
Still wondering if the interned Doolittle Raider B25 is floating about somewhere too. That would be a real piece of history that should come home.
Dan
I have the HP Scanjet 3970 and have been very pleased with how it’s scanned negatives/transparencies.
This is from a negative showing W/O Pat Coleman of 41 Squadron on the wing of his Spit XIV, fall of 44. Turned out well I think
Dan
Lots of stories of mystery B17s or 24s tagging along just out of range of the guns of the formations. These were assumed to be German flown captured bombers giving range, height, speed etc to the ground gunners.
A B24 top turret gunner friend, remembers vividly seeing an early model B24D without a nose turret flying along out of range of their guns while on a run over Austria in early 45. His pilot told the gunners to keep an eye on the plane and blast it if they got close enough.
Dan
Arghhh!!!!! This is torture for a Minnesota bound Spitfire fanatic!
Hope it makes it’s way across the pond
Dan
Re: Spitfire Ace – could YOU do it?
Originally posted by DazDaMan
Was just pondering this as the last episode of Spitfire Aceis on tomorrow night.Could any of us on the forums do what these men (many of them younger than myself) did sixty-plus years ago? Put your life on the line for King and Country to defend the right to freedom of speech? Freedom from persecution? Defending your faith and your own views?
Me? I’d like to think I could at least try. The defining moment would come when that Messerschmitt 109 is hovering in my gunsight. To maim or kill another man…?
Real-life’s a helluva lot different from a computer game!
Growing up and reading everything I could about WW2 pilots, I had an image of them as supermen, larger then life. They always seemed huge to me in the photos.
Then I started hunting for Spit XII drivers and began to get to know some of them via letters. They still were the guys in the photos though.
Then I was lucky enough to go to the 41 Squadron Reunion at Coltishall in 86 and finally met my heros. What struck me at first, was that I was actually physically bigger then most of them. I’m only 5’10” but I was taller then most. The other thing I found out was these were just good people. They weren’t supermen, they weren’t larger then life. They were good, decent people.
And that made them bigger heros to me in that like any of us would, they faced the fears and the dangers for the sake of their fellow men. When the job was done, those that survived came home, started regular jobs and got on with their lives.
I know we call them our greatest generation in the US, but I believe we are all capable of the same sort of sacrifice and I believe, that while I’m glad I never had to face that danger, that if my home and my family was in danger, I too could rise to the occasion.
Dan
Just to add fuel to the fire 🙂
Explain these two from 1941. Found in the Hawker Hurricane Mk.1/IV in Royal Air Force & Foreign Service by Richard Ward
from the old Arco-Aircam Aviation series.
Dan
Same plane, someone elses effort
Dan
Earlier photo of EE853 that I got from 79 Squadron pilot Hugh Kennare, back in the mid 80s. He’d flown with Barney Newman who had been a Spit XII pilot with 41 Squadron before joining 79 where he was killed flying VIIIs in August 45. Hugh also knew Don Smith who’d flown XIIs with 41.
Note the tropical filter under the nose, not yet attached. And Mark12, the pilot of MB882 in your avatar is standing to that left behind the right wing. That’s Don Smith.
Now if at some time I could have a Spitfire in my back yard like Langdon Badger did 🙂
Dan
From my B of B Then and Now copy. Guess it’s the first version as there is no Mk number
Dan
Put it small, under the tail. More warbird like that way 🙂
Dan