The only one with which I am familiar is the superb Railway Museum in York, and I don’t think anyone one would seriously object to paying for entry, as opposed to the ‘voluntary’ donations they currently collect.
After all, you pay £9 to get into the Minster in the same city- at first I objected to paying to get into a church, but when you see the scale and cost of the ongoing renovation, you quickly change your mind….
Sadly this evening it was announced in the news that either the NRM (National Railway Museum)at York or Shildon will have to close down in July due to government cuts.How many more of our national collections are going to be affected in a knock on effect ?? not just Railway museums but all our heritage is being hit ??.
Mike E
The wise will have at least one spare engine,a spare prop assembly,some spare pumps,generators,fuses,main wheels and tyres.
etc. being grounded in an out of the way location or on an airfield charging you big money for parking etc might not seem like a good idea.
If you go on holiday with your car or caravan you carry some basics with you such as a spare wheel and tyre,some fuses,a jack etc so basics for your aircraft be it new or vintage are also a good idea.
Mike E
Indeed it’s been a few years by now, but a P-51 is a completely different beast (from many standpoints, including the CAA’s) than a Harrier. The P-51 is by now a very well ‘known’ entity on the civil register so having another one is small potatoes. A Harrier is still seen as a ‘complex’ type by the CAA and within that category the Vulcan is still the only ex-mil jet that has managed to get airborne again, and that was by working very much hand in hand with the CAA during the whole process. Art Nall’s Harrier is a lovely beast but I very much doubt that he’s talked to the CAA a lot during the restoration process.
It’s not the ‘experimental’ category that’s the problem. It’s the complexity and safety record of the type, combined with the ‘paper trail’ etc.
we have Sea Vampire XG743 she is in excellent condition once we took the naff fabric off the timber is undamaged and we have all the paperwork ,logs etc from the day she was delivered from de Havillands to being delivered to DX. She is with only 1200 hrs TT out of 3,000 life expectancy easily the best Vampire candidate in existence to go back in to the sky .I provisionally asked the questions the guy nearly choked on his morning coffee and biscuits and has not spoken to me since so I think that says a lot even with three flying in the uk currently they dont seem keen on a simple jet (as the vampire is)joining its brothers back in the air so I can guess what the response will be to please sir can we put a Harrier on the civil register.
But power to his elbow if he can do it but I wont hold my breath.
Mike E
Nice piece of CAD work there. When do you start building the fuselage jigs, then fuselage?
Understand the first production drawings for the rear fuselage should be ready September time
Mike E
ARG
Engineering the whirlwind fighter project
If I had £53,000 I would be able to buy two ground running Merlins and have enough left for fuel to run them
for a good few hours.
Picked one up for a customer last year 9 hours genuine original on its stand ready to connect up and run with Log cards the lot for under £30,000 this isnt expensive its daft money.
A lot more than he paid for it by a good bit.Sometimes I wonder if folks are just getting free insurance valuations instead of seriously wanting to sell things.
Mike E
Hi Mike, we’re now OK for oxygen bottles thanks. We do need the pneumatic air bottles, however, and an EVA valve (I think).
Between Bruce and ourselves we have healthy stock of vampire spares if we have not go tit Bruce will have and if neither of us have then you may struggle a bit.
Regards
Mike E
If you sre not flying or wish to have a servicable oxygen system we can fix you
up with the correct wire bound bottles we have two or three with the end fittings
on as well straight out of a vampire. You cant use them as the necks have fractures and they wont
pass a pressure test.
Mike E
gatwick situation
Think I will have to stick with owning just a Shackleton control column, I doubt the Shackleton will fit in my garden
I have it on very good authority everyone should not start suddenly reaching for their cheques books or assuming the museum is about to close its doors.
To rationalize the collection as per Peter v’s wish’s to better fit in with the local authorities and Gatwick Airports future planes they are considering the disposal of some of the airframes to achieve this and better fit in for planning applications for new buildings etc.
The list of aircraft issued is in effect a list for discussion and to see what interest there may be in any or none of them,from these expressions of interest the trustees etc of the museum will then go back and sit around the table and discuss the plot further and decide which airframes are definitely on the to go list.At that point interested parties so we understand will be invited to submit a sealed bid for the aircraft they are interested in.
So in effect something like the Duxford process.Further details are to be announced very soon but no doubt Peter from Gatwick who pops in and out on a regular basis will be able to give more detail or definitive answers around the gist of what i have posted
Hope that clears the air and people then have some fact to discuss and contemplate and not great loads of excuse the phrase crap and rumor. The guys down there are working very hard in the transition to achieve Peters long term dream under some very awkward issues relating to planning orders etc that still are in force and have not gone away.
So Lets give the guys some space if like us you have an interest in something on the list then fine express that interest as per the Duxford format and wait to be informed of what is next.
Mike E
I thought you had most of the spare Vampires Bruce ??:D:D
I am surprised the question ha snot been asked “Will it be at Cockpit fest “???.
Looks really good how are you managing some of the profiles in the frames ??.
Have you tried RAF Rivets they seem to have a lot of stuff available.
Mike E
Tell you what Andy you don’t arf buff up well for the camera !!!
Or if you would like to donate that piece of Whirlwind you have to either go on show besides or be rebuilt into the worlds ONLY
Westland Whirlwind Fighter then either contact Matt or myself or visit our web site to see what we are doing.
Mike E
This is the aircraft recently up for auction in Paris at circa 70,000 euro’s guide price dont know if it fetched that though.
Mike E
Just to confuse things further we have got the Mk IX static Spitfire (GRP) used on a skid down a track for the close up shots.
Currently undergoing a refurbishment for a trailer exhibit believed to have been an ex TDL gate guard but wich and what we
have no info unless someone on here has ??
Mike E