Firebexdont you just love the photo’s of the Hinds with the rocket pods still hanging of the stub wings ???
Firebexdont you just love the photo’s of the Hinds with the rocket pods still hanging of the stub wings ???
FirebexIt does look good I was there just before Christmas but I would suggest if I may that perhaps they should consider some fund raising to extend a car port type structure out of the side of the hanger to cover the outside exhibits and give them an element of protection from our wonderful British weather.And perhaps a bit of a shuffle around as I found that the collection is excellent but a little disjointed ,perhaps they could consider putting the rotor craft and helicopters more together and the fixed wing aircraft together to section the displays a bit more .Its just a personal view point but I think giving some indepth thought to re arranging could make the exhibits and displays a lot more visitor orientated and easier to follow.
On another note they have a really nice section of Lancaster it would be really great to see this restored and perhaps added to (like the Halifax at YAM ?) lots of drawings exist and it is not beyond the realms of possibility there are like the Wellington lots of chunks of airframe around the country.
Mike E
FirebexIt does look good I was there just before Christmas but I would suggest if I may that perhaps they should consider some fund raising to extend a car port type structure out of the side of the hanger to cover the outside exhibits and give them an element of protection from our wonderful British weather.And perhaps a bit of a shuffle around as I found that the collection is excellent but a little disjointed ,perhaps they could consider putting the rotor craft and helicopters more together and the fixed wing aircraft together to section the displays a bit more .Its just a personal view point but I think giving some indepth thought to re arranging could make the exhibits and displays a lot more visitor orientated and easier to follow.
On another note they have a really nice section of Lancaster it would be really great to see this restored and perhaps added to (like the Halifax at YAM ?) lots of drawings exist and it is not beyond the realms of possibility there are like the Wellington lots of chunks of airframe around the country.
Mike E
FirebexI would suggest you contact the Royal Armouries at Leeds west Yorkshire they hold
all the info and data on guns of all sizes back to the English civil war and beyond to present times.They have some very helpfull volunteer researchers.
Mike E
FirebexI would suggest you contact the Royal Armouries at Leeds west Yorkshire they hold
all the info and data on guns of all sizes back to the English civil war and beyond to present times.They have some very helpfull volunteer researchers.
Mike E
FirebexSnoopy I think sums up exactly what a good number of us have suggested and inferred in regard to the project.And just to highlight the project brief from the web site is to put a Mosquito back into the air this suggests a rebuild or construction as close to the original as possible not a reproduction or replica which ever term you wish to use.
I was discussing this suggested project with an associate the other day and he suggests that there is an airframe still in the UK from either a stalled or abandoned project ??. I thought all the airframes had gone,been traded,or sold overseas. Besides the ones we know about in museums at DH museum and at Elvington does anyone know which airframe this may be and could it be a possible candidate for this project ??. It could be a delay of info on an airframe that was in store and is no longer with us but who knows ??
Any ideas Bruce ??
Mike E
FirebexSnoopy I think sums up exactly what a good number of us have suggested and inferred in regard to the project.And just to highlight the project brief from the web site is to put a Mosquito back into the air this suggests a rebuild or construction as close to the original as possible not a reproduction or replica which ever term you wish to use.
I was discussing this suggested project with an associate the other day and he suggests that there is an airframe still in the UK from either a stalled or abandoned project ??. I thought all the airframes had gone,been traded,or sold overseas. Besides the ones we know about in museums at DH museum and at Elvington does anyone know which airframe this may be and could it be a possible candidate for this project ??. It could be a delay of info on an airframe that was in store and is no longer with us but who knows ??
Any ideas Bruce ??
Mike E
FirebexMike,
Thanks for the additional information, the aircraft was slightly before my time at NEAM, as I did not join until 1979. I remember seeing the aircraft at Lambton Lion Park and the Tyneside Summer Exhibition before its move to Usworth. I was aware of the connection to the SAPS as I wrote a history of NEAM a few years ago.
I am pleased now that a little bit more of its post service history has surfaced.
Actual move date to the North East was 11th October 1975. Can you clarify the comment about it coming from Shawbury as most reports state Oakington to Chester then Woodford.
We are going back a long time now but from what I recall the majority of the airframes came from Shawbury via Chester. But One airframe stayed over there and that was the one that I got going and ground running for Bryn and Jim kerr before he sadly got killed when she piled in at a show.
Wz518 and two others came in under their own steam but on eof them went back to where I do not know the engine from WZ518 and the other where pulled and sent back to the vintage pair as spares.I think but not sure that the one that returned to where ever may have ended up being the vintage pair spare ship.(I think one of them was the one lost during the sad mid air collision they had.Meteor vs Vampire).
WZ518 was fully working when I got her you could climb in with the batteries connected power everything up and even the ignitors on the engine frame would click when you tried an engine start sequence.Shame wish I still had her I would have definitely tried to get her into the air.But I did hear unconfirmed that at some point after I parted with her that she suffered some damage in storage or is that part of the confusion with the other airframe that was up there(was it a vampire or a venom ?) as someone tried to tell me that she was in very poor shape when they got her and that was totally incorrect and she was inside from arrival at Woodford in the Mu to going to storage at Handforth and then she spent a few months at Pomona Dock before moving .And she definitely was in excellent condition.
Mike E
FirebexMike,
Thanks for the additional information, the aircraft was slightly before my time at NEAM, as I did not join until 1979. I remember seeing the aircraft at Lambton Lion Park and the Tyneside Summer Exhibition before its move to Usworth. I was aware of the connection to the SAPS as I wrote a history of NEAM a few years ago.
I am pleased now that a little bit more of its post service history has surfaced.
Actual move date to the North East was 11th October 1975. Can you clarify the comment about it coming from Shawbury as most reports state Oakington to Chester then Woodford.
We are going back a long time now but from what I recall the majority of the airframes came from Shawbury via Chester. But One airframe stayed over there and that was the one that I got going and ground running for Bryn and Jim kerr before he sadly got killed when she piled in at a show.
Wz518 and two others came in under their own steam but on eof them went back to where I do not know the engine from WZ518 and the other where pulled and sent back to the vintage pair as spares.I think but not sure that the one that returned to where ever may have ended up being the vintage pair spare ship.(I think one of them was the one lost during the sad mid air collision they had.Meteor vs Vampire).
WZ518 was fully working when I got her you could climb in with the batteries connected power everything up and even the ignitors on the engine frame would click when you tried an engine start sequence.Shame wish I still had her I would have definitely tried to get her into the air.But I did hear unconfirmed that at some point after I parted with her that she suffered some damage in storage or is that part of the confusion with the other airframe that was up there(was it a vampire or a venom ?) as someone tried to tell me that she was in very poor shape when they got her and that was totally incorrect and she was inside from arrival at Woodford in the Mu to going to storage at Handforth and then she spent a few months at Pomona Dock before moving .And she definitely was in excellent condition.
Mike E
FirebexThe jet engine at Anchor surplus is out of XD382 and was £3000 when we got the Vampire so we did not take it on. Are you sure it’s a Derwent. Also it is corroded and solid.
That does confuse things a little as the man was adamant it was a Derwent he said it was on the plate.So they might have two engines lurking around somewhere.And that is too much money for a scrap engine.
Mike E
FirebexThe jet engine at Anchor surplus is out of XD382 and was £3000 when we got the Vampire so we did not take it on. Are you sure it’s a Derwent. Also it is corroded and solid.
That does confuse things a little as the man was adamant it was a Derwent he said it was on the plate.So they might have two engines lurking around somewhere.And that is too much money for a scrap engine.
Mike E
FirebexI am curious about this as the records for the aircraft at the museum state it was acquired from the Stockport Aircraft Preservation Society at Pomona Dock in Manchester in 1974 having previously been stored at Woodford.
Well as previously stated i worked at Woodford and was involved in moving some of them. I Lived in Stockport at the time and was also the Chairman and engineer for Stockport APS the aircraft was moved to Pomona Dock when SAPS
lost some of its storage at the old Handforth MU. and I placed it there alongside a Comet airliner I had assisted with that was being used as a restaurant next to an ex Liverpool ferry being used as a floating night club.The aircraft could not be displayed under cover so I took the decision as it was mine to dispose of it to a museum that could keep it under cover.
I was also connected with a couple of other organisations and in on the beginning of BAPC with Malcolm Goosey ,Peter Schofield,Brian Robinson,Jack Bruce,Cmdr Les Wight,Keith Fordyce and others of the time. Do you require the color of my underwear also ?. (Its blue with brown stripes. localized)
Does that answer your question and confusion ????
Mike E
FirebexI am curious about this as the records for the aircraft at the museum state it was acquired from the Stockport Aircraft Preservation Society at Pomona Dock in Manchester in 1974 having previously been stored at Woodford.
Well as previously stated i worked at Woodford and was involved in moving some of them. I Lived in Stockport at the time and was also the Chairman and engineer for Stockport APS the aircraft was moved to Pomona Dock when SAPS
lost some of its storage at the old Handforth MU. and I placed it there alongside a Comet airliner I had assisted with that was being used as a restaurant next to an ex Liverpool ferry being used as a floating night club.The aircraft could not be displayed under cover so I took the decision as it was mine to dispose of it to a museum that could keep it under cover.
I was also connected with a couple of other organisations and in on the beginning of BAPC with Malcolm Goosey ,Peter Schofield,Brian Robinson,Jack Bruce,Cmdr Les Wight,Keith Fordyce and others of the time. Do you require the color of my underwear also ?. (Its blue with brown stripes. localized)
Does that answer your question and confusion ????
Mike E
FirebexWhat a load of tosh health and safety quote ???.
Then the statement he could not go in because the carft !!! needs restoration and there is no seat in it and we are fund raising for it.
By heck love ring GB Replicas they will fix you up with a seat for less than £100 and you just need a frame for it.
When we did the RBL Spitfire we had people in it by the dozen the more the merrier.We had many veterans in the aircraft including the 94 year old pilot of the original W3850.What a pleasure to be able to let him in it took four of us to get him out of his wheel chair into the cockpit but we could not get him out for 45 minutes as we dare not disturb his memories and we saw the tear in the corner of his eye .
Any collection anywhere in the world if a WW2 Spitfire pilot visits should give open house to the cockpit.I know that some of the live Spitfire owners allow these hero’s into their aircraft and rightly so.Soon they will not be here to tell us of their heroic deeds. I have had the privilege and the honor of being able to call a few well know B Of B pilots my friend sadly they are now flying on patrol in blue skies on a different plain.
Bless them all .
Mike e
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